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What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world's main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It's literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I'm genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 114 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There is no coherent ideology over there besides "America/the West/capitalism should be destroyed." Dudes would rather Pol Pot be in charge than Joe Biden.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 62 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Last part is true and even more insane/sad because these people are all terminally online gossip mongers that Pol Pot would have immediately executed.

You own a computer? You don't work in the fields? You wear glasses?

Yep, literally executed.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 17 points 5 months ago

Yeah, pretty much. I mean, my estimate in the modern day would be that "ACAB I saw a bad video on Youtube, we need communism" would turn into "oh my god what the FUCK they literally came in my house because I said the wrong thing online and SLAMMED ME ON THE GROUND and now they're NOT LETTING ME OUT OF PRISON this is literally SO BAD LIKE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THIS".

But yeah, the general principle that they don't have any degree of connection to reality with what they're saying, I'll agree with you on.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

More than once I have seen the same person express both "America is evil and the whole system needs to be destroyed" and also "Joe Biden is bad for the country and I can't support him", and asked the person, well if you think America is bad and Biden is harming the country, doesn't that mean you should support him being in charge, so he can do more damage to this evil thing?

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, they know that Donald is worse for the country. They want Donald in there so America collapses faster. They want China and Russia to expand.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I don't even think they are accelerationists at this point. I think they are all either information warfare operatives or useful idiots. The hexbear admin has essentially admitted to this.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

information warfare operatives or useful idiots.

The latter. The former are likely all deployed on social media sites with a bigger market share than the fediverse.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I'm not on Facebook but I assumed they just continue the flow of the Core Discussion we have here?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The hexbear admin has essentially admitted to this.

Source? I wanna see their exact words

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

It won't be admitting shit. They're a professional, damnit.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I would not be surprised in the slightest.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And Hexbear gets really awkward when you call them out on wanting the Donald.