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[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

The only ones that treat it as money are in on it. Otherwise, you could go to a Best Buy and get a TV with your crypto-card.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate to be “that guy” but your definition of money is a little constrained. By that definition, the only “money” is the money of the country you’re currently in. Can you walk into a bestbuy and purchase a TV with Yuan?

You’re likely trying to say “Can you walk into a normal store of an appropriate country and pay with that currency” but even that is flawed, as certain stores don’t accept credit/debit, or don’t accept cash.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You literally quoted an article about the US…. Which is again an issue. The Canadian dollar is not legal tender in the US.

There are also countries where the “legal tender” is useless. Take Zig, which is the recently mandated legal tender of Zimbabwe, which is so scarce that it’s impossible to trade in, leading people to fall back to the (by your definition) fake currency of the US Dollar.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t really care what is legal tender in places I will never live. If I visit, I will convert my money to the local currency as needed. Bitcoin however, is NOT going to be among them.

Because it’s not money. It has value, but it is not money.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lmao this is so weird. You’re talking about how the only real money is legal tender, but then you go off about how you don’t care what legal tender is anywhere other than the US.

I mean, good for you. No one is trying to force Bitcoin down your throat any more than they are the Zig. But using the US definition of what is considered legal tender isn't the vehicle you seem to think it is.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Bitcoin isn’t legal tender. Period. It is a “valuable”

You can’t make in-store purchases with it- therefore, it isn’t a currency. It is a valuable.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, in the US there is only one legal tender, the US dollar. Good job sussing that one out, it must have been a monumental effort on your part.

Of course other countries have different legal tenders. Do you happen to know the legal tenders of El Salvador?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Look at another branches of conversation. This is 'Murica-brained troll, that already banned two people. Just don't bother.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Do you live in El Salvador? Because if not- I’d imagine bitcoin should be every bit as irrelevant to you as it is to everyone else.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it too thick sarcasm, incompetence or you just wanted to say smart cards?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bitcoin isn’t legal tender. Just accept it.

[–] uis@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dollar isn't legal tender either. Everyone wants something called "рубль".

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] asterfield@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you buy a tv with a silver bar?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, because it’s not legal currency. Are you getting it now?? Valuables aren’t all accepted currency….

Your argument is DEEPLY flawed.

[–] asterfield@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kenisis is apparently backed by silver, I think that solves it all somehow

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

WTF is Kenisis, and can you walk into a store and buy a TV with it?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you walk into store and buy a TV with British Pound?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the UK and its territories, yes.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then you can't with dollar. But maybe can with Euro, not sure.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are we still debating if crypto is actually a currency? Because yes, currencies can be localized. That crypto is agnostic to localities does not make it any more of a currency.

If you are trying to make another point, I may have gotten lost in the thread.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

This happens. I was mostly debating Pratai's "US dollar is the only legal currency in the world" nonsense.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can't buy a TV with turquoise either. or sumerian shillings.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And what does that tell you? That maybe those things aren’t legal currency??

[–] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then US Dollar isn't legal currency everywhere outside of USSA. You can't just go to shop and buy groceries with it.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

It’s exchangeable. Go to a money exchange and see how much your bitcoin is worth.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

now you're shifting the goalposts. why should modern legal standards define a universal anthropolgical phenomenon?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No goalpost has been moved. Currency is clearly defined. So whatever other valuable item you try and offer up as an example will be dismissed as well.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

we were discussing money. it's not narrowly defined by what the US government decrees. it's a universal phenomenon across all cultures that predates even written records. do you accept barley corn as payment? the answer doesn't matter because people have used it as money regardless.