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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (16 children)

His comments highlight the complexity for firms desperately needing supplies and parts manufactured in China, but not the competition from complete kits made there that undercut Western firms.

We can't afford not to buy parts so other companies can assemble them...

But we also can't allow China to sell complete units because then those middle men companies can't make money...

I'm no climate scientist, but at this point I have no sympathy for energy companies or their profits.

It's insane lots of world leaders say climate change is an important issue, then turn around and tariff or outright ban green energy products from China because they're so cheap everyone would buy them.

Just sounds like corporate welfare where whatever maximizes their profits is necessary, and everything that doesn't gets banned.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (15 children)

The issue is China is producing things below cost to push out competition. That's not good for anyone but China. They want to be supplier at the expense of everyone else.

That legitimately a good reason to put tariffs in place.

BUT more money should be spent on renewables also.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They already pushed everyone else out years ago. If it was truly the Amazon business model prices would have gone up. If they want to keep subsidizing the transition to clean energy we should take advantage of it.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Its not that simple. Western money is going to the pockets of Chinese workers when it could be going to the pockets of western workers. The West might not even be taking advantage of it might be that they have been so naive that they have been losing money to China and investing back home could have been the cheaper option and also the option that spread up renewables globally.

It also gives then huge leverage on things like trade and war.

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