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/e/OS Is Better Than Android. You Should Try It (www.wired.com)

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (36 children)

I would definitely try it, but all the phones I've been looking at recently don't have any support whatsoever for any of those types of custom OS's. No Lineage, no anything. All because they're not flagship models and are more budget friendly phones (and have what I'm looking for: headphone jack and SD slot).

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (35 children)

Can someone help me understand why headphone jacks and SD card slots are so important to people? All new phones have audio connections built into the USB-C port, and have enough onboard storage not to require any amount of expansion.

Is the lack of these features really a dealbreaker? I have a Pixel, with custom ROM, and consider myself a power user, and never miss those features at all.

SD cards were nice back when phones had like 16GB of onboard storage and you needed more space for apps and media, but with 512GB onboard storage and the ability to use cloud storage at Wifi 7 speeds, I couldn't imagine needing more.

Integrated headphone jacks were nice before the vast majority of people used Bluetooth headphones. Even then, a tiny adapter lets me connect any of my old wired headphones or aux cables up no problem.

We're 18 years into the smartphone age. When the first smartphones came out in 2006, microsd cards were only 2 years old. Now they're 20 years old. Are we really surprised that this feature is no longer standard?

The 3.5mm headphone jack has been around since the 1950's, and adapters have been required for tons of audio applications for even longer than that. Do we really need a 70-year-old port integrated into new phones?

[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

[ confirmation bias at play. you have switched to bluetooth. it meets or exceeds all your needs. you don't see much public indication to the contrary. you figure bluetooth is the best. ]

simplicity the cable just works. no configuration. no pairing .un pairing, figuring why it worked yesterday
Audio quality - bluetooth is lossy. we just were given AptX lossless in 2021 ( another confirmation bias ) "Sounds great to me" "I can't hear the difference".
2 things are both possibly true though: I can't hear the difference. Other people hear a big difference. this seems impossible to some people. As if their senses are the apogee of human sense.
lag. new codecs lower latency, but lag lag lag. You couldn't possibly use your device as a synth/music instrument and 'play' the lag is far to great. Same with games.
whats the big deal. This is a bias for the plug users - would it hurt to keep it? we've always had it. The work is already done. Its already baked in the cake, why you gotta take it out?
Investment - I have really good headphones. I have really good earbuds. Yes there are adapters but they are finicky exactly when you want them to just work. They inevitably break. They often downgrade the sound - I have 3 usb to audio adapters for android that all hiss for no reason.

The issue is that when the marketers are selling us a 'clean vision of the future' they purposefully gloss over the things they are taking away. Then they paint the people who feel pain because of the change as neanderthals who wouldn't know better if it bit them. When they do know better. They had better (for them) and progress made it worse (for them). To which the marketers generally say - you should be someone else.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Lol @ this barely coherent drivel being up voted.

Lol harder at the butthurt 3.5mm fetishists who downvote simple answers to their unbelievably petty and stupid criticisms.

Lol hardest at every dipshit who mentioned Bluetooth and didn't like when the adapters were pointed out as the basic solution to their whining.

"We don't want solutions we want to bitch"

simplicity the cable just works. no configuration. no pairing .un pairing, figuring why it worked yesterday

Use the adapter plug as mentioned. You can even just leave it on your normal headphones if you only use 1 pair!

whats the big deal. This is a bias for the plug users - would it hurt to keep it?

Hurts waterproofing, phone slimness and design, etc. again, you can just use an adapter to have all the stuff you're whining about back.

Investment - I have really good headphones. I have really good earbuds. Yes there are adapters but they are finicky exactly when you want them to just work

No, you're either talking out of your ass or buying the cheapest possible cord and being shocked when it doesn't work right. My $8 adapter has worked for 4 years no problem driving over-ear headphones no issues.

they purposefully gloss over the things they are taking away

Nothing was taken away. It's literally just combined with another port now.

If you want to be mad at anyone: be mad at the people making headphones with 3.5mm jacks rather than USB-C, as they're the ones using an outdated port.

[–] KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ok great, let me charge my phone while I listen to music, oh wait now I need another adaptor.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 5 months ago

Literally just get that kind of charger. That $8 one I have is one.

All you weird-ass fetishists for an old connector keep having the most child-lrvel intelligence "gotchas"

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Use the adapter plug as mentioned.

Type C can't spin 360°. I have a 90-degree 3.5mm jack, which doesn't create a risk of breaking the port, so I can put my phone in my pocket in any position.

Hurts waterproofing, phone slimness and design

Check out the Sony Xperia 10. It's the smallest phone on the market with a 3.5mm jack, micro SD slot, 5000 mAh battery, and IP68 rating.

Nothing was taken away. It's literally just combined with another port now.

Haha, remember 2000s, when most phones were using proprietary connector for both charging and headphones output? Everyone hated that stuff.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Type C can't spin 360°

Headphone jack portion of the adapter can

Remember the 2000s

Yeah, because everyone having a different charger is the same thing as an actually UNIVERSAL connector.

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I mean that phones had combo port both for charging and headphones. Using adapters was annoying. And if you saying that 3.5mm is obsolete than why newest Macbooks have 3.5mm port?

[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Nothing was taken away. It’s literally just combined with another port now. That's not how either Apple or Samsung adapters work. The converters to a bit more than change the shape of the plug.

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