A lifetime free of animal products is not sustainable. Humans need at least some meat to survive. The average person eats too much which isn't helping. Advocating a vegan (or even vegetarian) diet is ignoring science and how our bodies function. It causes long-term, serious harm to people who do not supplement their diet with at least some meat.

Pure veganism is a cult that ignores science, diet, and common sense. Nothing wrong with eating vegan meals (I love them) but completely cutting out meat is bad for you.

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Humans need at least some meat to survive. [...] It causes long-term, serious harm to people who do not supplement their diet with at least some meat. [...] completely cutting out meat is bad for you.

That is not correct.

Advocating a vegan (or even vegetarian) diet is ignoring science and how our bodies function. [...] Pure veganism is a cult that ignores science, diet, and common sense.

To the contrary. It is very much supported by science. Are you interested in the scientific literature? I'll happily share.

[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's impossible to trust any sources these days because there are hidden agendas. The fact remains: we are omnivores and have shown to have used meat to evolve to current humans with high intelligence.

No amount of "scientific literature" can contradict actual, basic, fundamental science about who we are and what we are supposed to eat. Anyone who does has an agenda.

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 3 points 5 months ago

It's impossible to trust any sources these days because there are hidden agendas. [...] No amount of "scientific literature" can contradict actual, basic, fundamental science about who we are and what we are supposed to eat. Anyone who does has an agenda.

Sounds more like, "I don't like it, so it must be an agenda".

If you have issues trusting science we won't come to an agreement here. Having a biased view and choosing what you want to believe, despite contradicting evidence, is building an illusion and not having an accurate picture of reality.

Note that research on that topic has not just popped up in the last couple of years. Also you may take a look at other cultures for hands-on counterexamples, e.g. some monks who live and have lived their whole lifes without consuming animal products.

The fact remains: we are omnivores

I wonder how you decide what a "fact" is, since you have issues trusting the work of scientists.
Anyway:
The fact also remains that digestion capabilites, i.e. being able to eat both plant and animal matter, don't necessarily impose dietary recommendations.

What you need to survive is a set of nutrients your body can digest. In which form they come, is less important.

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