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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Deserved" is a subjective qualifier though. It doesn't really mean anything without reference to an ethical framework for context.

Saying I deserve a doughnut, basically means I want a donut unless there's a specific context that alludes to why you should be rewarded with a doughnut.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't really think so, otherwise they probably would have said it. I think you're just utilizing loaded terminology to suit your argument.

It would be like seeing the guys from jackass injure themselves in a stunt, and then accusing people who witnessed it of being callous for not being sympathetic. "No one deserves to break their penis for entertainment purposes!"..... Well, okay, I guess that's a nice platitude. But that guy was swinging his dick at an angry bull, and no one was making him do it.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I am so tired of this prescriptive bullshit on online forms. If you don’t see it then fine, you don’t see it. But don’t make up some nonsense about me to pretend I didn’t read what I read. We just disagree, it’s that simple.

Sometimes people mean more than the words in front of you. It’s called nuance, implications, etc. People mean more than what they literally wrote sometimes. Yet for some reason when we are on forums people pretend that doesn’t exist, like interpretation can’t exist ever.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, this would be fine if you weren't attacking other people's interpretations.....

Usually when people witness a criticism they want to know the logic behind that criticism.

People mean more than what they literally wrote sometimes. Yet for some reason when we are on forums people pretend that doesn’t exist

I think that's because the whole point of forums is to express your ideas through the written word. Expecting people in a forum to interpret your argument with nuance when you express none is idiotic.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So the written word doesn’t contain nuance or implications? It’s never open to interpretation? That’s certainly a take. I am not going to be as dick-ish as you though and call you idiotic.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So the written word doesn’t contain nuance or implications? It’s never open to interpretation?

Man, can you fucking read? The written word contains nuance and implications, but you can't interpret it from someone's writing that is devoid of it.....

I can't say I don't like lord of the rigs, and then expect people to assume my reasoning is nuanced, or that my statement may spur any further implications.

That’s certainly a take. I am not going to be as dick-ish as you though and call you idiotic.

I think we just have interpretations of what I have said. People are allowed to have nuanced opinions. Maybe, idiotic isn't an implication of being dick-ish to me?

dick-ish

No one deserves to be called a dick. Be better.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Oh but I deserved to be called an idiot? Go fuck yourself and spare me the high road nonsense.

Feel free to have the last word. I’m sure it’s very important to you.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Lol, didn't get the sarcasm?