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[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I hate this fucking planet, "counter" green energy ? For fucking real ? They all need to die in capitalist hell.

[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

That's not what is critizised here, is it?

I might misunderstand but I thought the cheap production of necessary components for green energy coming from China, only possible by shortcuts of reducing worker rights or otherwise exploitation of ressources, should be countered.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think this is why they're against it ?

I'm not saying we should encourage pour working conditions, but there's a lot of things that are exaggerated or straight up lies and we as "the north" should stop pointing fingers at other countries that do much more than us for the green transition. There's a lot of lies being spread regarding and, there's green hardware being produced there but also a lot of research and r & d.

High ranking business man are more scared of China being ahead tech wise rather than production wise, and with all the microchip drama this is bound to happen.

[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I also agree with you. I think it is one of the factors at play here. But your argument is a big one, too. We outsourced a lot of production and thus knowhow which they have adopted and improved upon. The possibility of a tech wise dependence on one nation gives a lot of power to those, which is also why certain technology sectors should be brought back.

So you say that is the reason for this decision?

Thank you for answering my question.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I agree with you too, we definitely should produce our own technology as it is much wise for many many reason, but I'm still convinced this is no reason to try to blockade other country's imports.

And, yes i am convinced this decision is a 100% about money.

You're welcome, not sure my take on things is worth anything but thanks for giving it your attention!

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Workers rights in China are one of the only places in the world that actually are gaining more rights and protections, year over year. This isn’t the 80s anymore.

[–] Philosofuel@futurology.today 5 points 6 months ago

Thanks a lot, this is very insightful.

[–] Kaijobu@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for this article, really insightful. That's good news.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

No worries, it’s only one example also. They have better maternity laws than my country, better sick time laws, better overtime pay, better holiday pay, more holidays. It’s not perfect, nowhere is, but it’s not the land of sweat shops most would have you believe it is.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 6 months ago

They've also been heavily investing in green tech for years way more than the US, so it's probably related.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Foxconn factory had people throwing themselves off the roof of the building because of working conditions. The US gave them a sweet deal to build a plant in Minnesota/Michigan i think. We literally rewarded them.

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