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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And I already countered that by pointing out that the difference in level of lethality between the two means the amount of risk a bigot would have to face in order to attack a queer is different, therefore they do not have the same level of deterrence.

I see... so this would be a person who is so extremely stupid that they would attack someone with a stun gun on their belt, but not a regular gun.

That doesn't sound especially plausible.

And, again, I never said they were a deterrent, you did. I can't answer why they would have the same level of deterrence when, yet again, I never made a claim that they were a deterrent. I was merely responding to your claim that they were.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see… so this would be a person who is so extremely stupid that they would attack someone with a stun gun on their belt, but not a regular gun.

You seriously still can't comprehend why someone would more likely attack someone with a less than lethal weapon than someone with a lethal weapon?

That doesn’t sound especially plausible.

Can you explain why?

And, again, I never said they were a deterrent, you did.

You said a stun gun is a deterrent. You also claimed they are the same level of deterrent as a gun.

I never made a claim that they were a deterrent. I was merely responding to your claim that they were.

And that's where the communication breaks down, I think. My point is not that guns are an effective deterrent, but I was explaining that from the perspective of the queers that live among bigots, they would only open-carry if they think that doing so would reduce the risk of being attacked. You then provided an alternative method of carrying a stun gun. Is it wrong to assume that you were claiming stun guns are an effective deterrent, then?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Okay, you're clearly not actually reading my comments since I've said multiple times now that I am not claiming that either are deterrents, so I'm just going to end this conversation. If you're not going to read my comments, there's no point in continuing.