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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ok. You make very good arguments. And I do believe that you are correct. But just one thing though, yes there has been reports of people having some bad permanent side effects after taking the COVID vaccine, but as you mentioned, r those were indeed very low in occurrences. I've read somewhere that it was lower than the occurrence of bad permanent side effects in contraceptive pills for women for example.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You are perpetuating dangerous lies in an attempt to defend a horrible liar. You need to REALLY consider why the fuck you do that. Educate yourself before spewing that nonsense.

[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly don't even need to point out the liar part

Just point out that he has brain damage from a worm literally eating his brain. He could have made all the right choices and that still makes him a horrible person to put in charge just from a mental acuity angle

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 months ago

He was a hack long before the brain worm. The worm thing is absolutely pertinent and you are correct that should preclude him from any serious run, but he’s been selling snake oil for a looooong time and has many reasons beyond mere medical stuff that should top the list of why he’s a piece of shit leader.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to perpetuate lies. I want to have a discussion about that candidate and hear what other people have to say.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know what to tell you if you need to have a discussion about a grifter. To take him seriously, you have to pretty seriously have zero knowledge about what he lies about. If that’s the case, perhaps you should be researching the topic with a reputable source instead of playing devils advocate for a lying POS.

You have to be utterly stupid or willfully ignorant to A) take him seriously B) ignore the fact that his claims were, to an extreme degree, publicly refuted.

But sure, tell me more how you expect us to seriously discuss the merits of Mr. Brain Worm.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am pretty ignorant about the guy. Not gonna lie. I only recently started checking him out because I learned Woody Harrelson supports him. I guess I haven't checked enough good sources about him though.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you’re ignorant about the guy, maybe try not playing devils advocate and spreading his lies. Do some basic research before muddying discourse and looking like a knob.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey look, I just happened to read some things about the guy that put him in a good light and he appeared to be a pretty decent guy. And Woody Harrelson was supporting him and had contributed in making a video debunking all the crazy things said about him.

It's not my fault if I just happened to stumble on information that was favorable towards RFK and happened to learn about his existence through those.

God damn.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you think it’s reasonable to play devil’s advocate for someone you don’t know (with a proven shitty track record) based on some fluff propaganda, then you are a great example of how disinformation campaigns work.

You are the prime kind of mark they make misinformation for, because you’ll do zero to educate yourself beyond watching some YouTube video before you start doing exactly what you’ve done here.

Step 1: Intake propaganda Step 2: Take propaganda at face value Step 3: repeat propaganda ad nauseam Step 4: claim ignorance when called out Repeat

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Will you please back the fuck off???

I get it. You hate RFK and according to you, anyone who defends the guy is a complete moron.

If you think I was a victim of propaganda, then just say so and point me in the right direction. You don't have to be so god damn rude about it.

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t hate him. I just have the common sense to not buy his snake oil. And yes, I’ll judge anyone who defends his obvious snake oil.

I don’t think you’re a victim. I think you’re absolutely complicit in perpetuating his lies at this point. You had every opportunity to educate yourself, yet you opted not to and instead argued for him and his lies in the public forum. There will always be assholes, and those that spread the asshole’s shit around.

You have choices. You made a poor one going to bat for him. And yeah, I’m not going to sugarcoat anything when it comes to fascism. Sorry if that hurts your feelings 🤷‍♂️

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At this point you're just harassing me. I've had enough

[–] stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The two methods that could have saved you from mistakenly conflating me calling out misinformation for harassment (seems pretty par-for-the course for an RFK defender) is by not replying or just blocking me.

And all this could have been avoided if you looked him up for a moment before coming to the defense of his lies.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

You said "many." That is definitively false.