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[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I appreciate you still voting though, mate. The alternative is far worse and that's terrifying that our alternative to supporting a literal genocide is even worse.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's also not just voting against Trump.

Biden on climate is an A student. The inflation reduction act, according to basically every climate wonk, gives us a real chance at achieving necessary goals both under its regime and thanks to further future legislation it certainly unlocks. Things are looking less bad right now than they have for a long time in spite of all the worsening indicators. And it's written with intense virtuous cycles built-in that will make it VERY sticky policy once it builds up a couple of years worth of inertia. The fact that he got it past an overtly hostile senate that had at least 51 anti-science, anti-climate, fossil fuel shills turning up to vote is nothing short of a policy miracle.

Trump, on the other hand, has vowed to reverse everything that could still be reversed about the IRA (a frustratingly large amount, unfortunately, could still be undone by executive fiat thanks to its still-developing political base). He's vowed to double down on every kind of fossil fuel subsidy. He's vowed to restore coal power even though it's horrible for everyone involved and the most expensive kind of energy production. He's vowed to fight windmills just because he doesn't like their aesthetics -- literal quixotic shit.

I won't defend Biden on Israel for even one millisecond. His position is heinous. It's evil. And if he loses in November, it will almost certainly be the reason why and he'll deserve it. But it will probably also spell actual global war and apocalypse fueled by climate within all of our lifetimes. It may sound dramatic, but a Trump win will bring us from feast to famine and may spell the actual end of our civilization.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lol, Biden is not an A student for climate.

Regardless of who's in charge, we are still on track for environmental disaster unless we completely get rid of infinite growth capitalism. Joe Biden sure as heck isn't going to do that.

I'm sick and tired of moderates thinking that our planet being uninhabitable is some sort of worthy compromise for the ownership class.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why not vote for him, then protest for his removal after Trump is imprisoned?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

after Trump is imprisoned?

Like that's gonna happen.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

We should all gather together at congress. Like early Jan. The 6th maybe? /s