114
submitted 2 weeks ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/globalnews@lemmy.zip

Climate activists from Last Generation disrupted Munich airport by gluing themselves to a runway, leading to flight cancellations and delays over a busy weekend.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/OaVXl

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 42 points 2 weeks ago

Grounding planes is probably one of the most effective ways a person can cut emissions.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

nah, this is one of those "shills running the activists" examples.
a. self-mangling is a good way to discourage sympathy or participation.
b. disrupting a bunch of random travelers, and actually endangering them because planes are in the air and need to land... so, not helpful in getting sympathy for the cause... just press coverage... which will be mostly negative.
c. there are a lot more direct ways to cause disruption, and a lot more sympathetic, less self-harming tactics to get press coverage.... and much much much more effective than delaying some flights at one airport for a few hours... this is peak stupidity at worse, but more likely, peak infiltration...
e. did i mention it even fucks up the activists physically!!! it's so fucking stupid and counter productive

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.de 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No it's not. If there was a right way to protest everyone would do it. But protest is always messy, some people will hate you, some will applaude you. So choose something and try it. Or sit on the couch and comment on the internet like you are not part of the collapse thats coming.
The opposite of love is not hate but indifference. Indifferent to the problem and indifferent to the solutions.

[-] xor@infosec.pub -4 points 2 weeks ago

i’m talking about how one particular thing is the wrong way to protest, yet you’re pretending like i’m against all possible protest or something

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.de 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These people ruin their (financial) lifes to protest for your future. Everything else failed, so they desperately try something more risky and you dare to call them fucking stupid.

[-] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the action is stupid, not the people, necessary.

and how does posting a wikipedia article to general topics like “ExxonMobil climate change denial” supposedly apply to gluing yourself to an airport runway?
a link that’s just a keyword search to pictures of Earth Day 1970???????
you’re pretending like you’re responding to me with some proof, but you’re just sea lioning.

why not go block an oil refinery, some shipping ports where oil is being loaded onto trucks? DDOS exxon’s backend online? throw feces an exxon ceo’s?

it’s a stupid fucking tactic and don’t you dare pretend like i’m talking about the concept of protesting climate change in general.

i’m talking about people like you tricking people like them into harming themselves.
and you’re awful.

[-] silence7 1 points 1 week ago

People have done all the things you propose. Repeatedly. It maybe gets some minor local attention, and a police crackdown, but hasn't changed much of anything. That's why people have resorted to stuff like putting soup on the glass protecting artworks or gluing themselves to runways.

[-] xor@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago

putting soup on glass protecting art gets a loooot more attention, and doesn’t harm anyone….
it’s crazy to lump that in.

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was trying to tell a VERY brief story of 50 years of protest that did not change anything, co2 just rises. So people try new stuff.
But I agree, this topic is too complex for a random internet fight not even in my native language. Had to look up sealioning, what are you talking about?! I am not awful, you are the one throwing around insults. Am I debating 17 year olds again?

[-] InternetPerson@lemmings.world 1 points 6 days ago

After reading through several of their comments and having engaged in a discussion with them myself, I get the impression that they don't care about respectful and civilised discussions and I think it's possible they are trolling. As they also resort to throwing insults around, evading questions and not really showing interest in conducting a line of arguments, it's probably best to disengage.

[-] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago

you’re lying, disingenuous, and not trying to tell a story by posting a link to a search result for images of earth day….

but, pretend like you’re genuine:
trying new stuff is FUCKING GREAT.
try to glue yourself to things is FUCKING STUPID.
why harm yourself, when there’s CEO’s with houses and addresses you could….

there’s a lot of waaaay better tactics than hurting yourself to gain sympathy… it’s basically turning munchaousens syndrome into a form of protest….
or, what you are doing, is referred to as munchausen syndrome by proxy
in english, at least….

please fucking stop advocating for SELF-harm

load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (19 replies)
load more comments (38 replies)
this post was submitted on 18 May 2024
114 points (99.1% liked)

Interesting Global News

2139 readers
476 users here now

What is global news?

Something that happened or was uncovered recently anywhere in the world. It doesn't have to have global implications. Just has to be informative in some way.


Post guidelines

Title formatPost title should mirror the news source title.
URL formatPost URL should be the original link to the article (even if paywalled) and archived copies left in the body. It allows avoiding duplicate posts when cross-posting.
[Opinion] prefixOpinion (op-ed) articles must use [Opinion] prefix before the title.


Rules

1. English onlyTitle and associated content has to be in English.
2. No social media postsAvoid all social media posts. Try searching for a source that has a written article or transcription on the subject.
3. Respectful communicationAll communication has to be respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences.
4. InclusivityEveryone is welcome here regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, caste, color, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.
5. Ad hominem attacksAny kind of personal attacks are expressly forbidden. If you can't argue your position without attacking a person's character, you already lost the argument.
6. Off-topic tangentsStay on topic. Keep it relevant.
7. Instance rules may applyIf something is not covered by community rules, but are against lemmy.zip instance rules, they will be enforced.


Companion communities

Icon attribution | Banner attribution

founded 10 months ago
MODERATORS