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Matrix client for Android for family and friends. Your experiences. (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 6 months ago by smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de to c/matrix@lemmy.ml

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I want to migrate my friends to self-hosted Matrix server I have for some time now. The problem is, that all Android clients seem missing for me. Element is too buggy (especially for encryption) and has bad UX. Element X is still experimental and lacks core features. FluffyChat has most features and nice ones like stickers, but calls or location sharing is here as a placeholder but not really working.

If you migrated someone to Matrix, what client did you found out to "be working" for people not caring about protocol? Because I care for protocol and can stand some bugs, that others could not.

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[–] oranki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Does the new Beeper Android client already work with Matrix messages? I tested it briefly after the release, but it basically didn't support regular Matrix at all yet

[–] cyrus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

After their plan of starting with local iMessage and expanding later didn't turn out well, they turned it around. Start with Matrix, add local bridges later.

The current application is based on the Beeper Mini codebase, is Matrix-First and will soon allow you to use local bridges to better preserve E2EE. As seen by some MSCs opened up by the beeper team, they are also looking into encrypted chat backups with these local bridges.

[–] oranki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the info, but Matrix first...? I had to install the app again and try it out, but couldn't figure out how to start a new matrix chat.

I really like the client UX/UI-wise, but unless I'm missing something it's definetly not a viable Matrix client yet.

[–] tester1121@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You will have to start the chat from desktop, none of their mobile clients support starting a Matrix chat as of now.

[–] cyrus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not a traditional matrix client mind you, and when I say "Matrix First" I mean architecturally.

[–] tester1121@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The desktop and previous mobile clients are based off of Element, it's only the new mobile clients that are custom.

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

so unfortunately, you can't log into your matrix account, but rather it creates a @username:beeper.com account. Which (if you bug them) you can use to log into your favorite matrix client. but you can then join our favorite rooms and chat folks using normal matrix commands.

[–] oranki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, you can use Element web and reset the account password using "forgot password" to use the beeper homeserver, but OP is asking about Android clients

The Beeper client is 100% not usable for Matrix-to-Matrix messaging, I don't think it even supports e2ee, but I have heard they're working on it.

[–] tester1121@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It supports E2EE.

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I'm talking about the android client for beeper but have used it for nheko...and it does support e2ee. I use it for all matrix convos and rooms. Maybe something changed in the time you last used it and I signed up, but yeah not having any e2ee issues once I verified the key