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I've been around these arguments enough times to see the discussion inevitably get to this point. We dance around the idea of "is it worth it to go vegan or not?" long enough, until eventually someone concedes that "yes it is better to do, but it's not practical to ask everyone to do it/you can't get everyone to go vegan/it won't solve the problem if we go vegan and do nothing else/etc."
Convenient that any time an environmental initiative requires even tiny changes to our day to day lives, suddenly we need to look for the solutions vaguely "elsewhere." I guess let's ignore the fact that emissions from food alone are enough to push the planet over the 1.5C degree warming threshold for the planet, and that the average US consumer eats an order of magnitude more red meat than could ever be sustainable.
If you truly think that it's worth doing, either do it, or admit that you selfishly don't want to. Don't try and pretend the climate science backs up your opinions though.
As an aside, this is basically my goodbye letter to Lemmy, so so probably not going to follow up on this thread. The platform is so small that people can't help but creep into communities that show up in the overall feed. Say what you will about Reddit, but at least there, spaces created specifically for in-groups (like a space called "vegancirclejerk") didn't constantly get commenters from the wider world knocking on the door and starting flame wars in the comments. Like, can there be no space for vegans to just fuck around and post memes in peace?
Maybe finally I'll get some peace by logging off and touching some grass. And then eating the grass, bc I'm vegan btw
Thank you for the comment. I heavily resonate with the last part. I don't come to vegan communities online to be bombarded with non-vegans making the same terrible arguments, I have enough of that in real life. Leaving Lemmy seems like a more attractive option.