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[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think this is a pretty silly comic. It’s a massive whataboutism.

At the beginning of the war I’d always hear “But what about hamas!??1! Do you condemn hamas!?!1”

Then I saw “But what about trump!!1! Obviously you need to support biden while he funds this genocide because the other option is worse!!1!”

Now, I’m seeing “But what about climate change!?!?!? What about the corrupt courts ??!?!?!? But what about reproductive rights ?!?!?”

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The comic, to me, shows that there's a lot more at stake than Gaza this election season. Protest voting because Biden hasn't done more will make all those issues, especially Gaza, insurmountably worse.

Netanyahu isn't angling for a Trump presidency because of personal preference.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I appreciate your expression of your view of this comic as it’s genuinely much more good faith than what I feel the artist was going for, like /gen I agree with everything you say here.

Do you mind me asking if you know the source of this? I want to learn more about the artist and see if I am just totally misreading the intent of the work

edit found it, analysis of this dude pending yet

edit 2: okay yeah i looked thru every comic of his since oct 7, and i just kind of see some minor both-sidesing of the genocide and absolutely no criticism of US or even corporate involvement in Israeli apartheid. so my original judgement of this artist as being kind of a patronizing loser stands.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Looks like the attribution at the top right leads to https://cagle.com/ which appears to be a political comic website by many different artists.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago

thank you genuinely— i have the worst time reading boomer political cartoon handwriting 😛 it’s worse than cursive for me

[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Well, if you think there’s a lot at stake then I think the best course of action would to start getting things done. If you want to stop protest votes, then why are you yelling at the people who are protesting? They aren’t protesting tiny things, they are protesting the funding of a fucking genocide. Why are you not saying something like “Well, wouldn’t this whole issue have been avoided if Biden started putting pressure on Israel a month or two ago?”

Failing to do shit about gaza and then being like “Hey, I’m less evil over here” is playing chicken with a hand grenade while hoping you don’t notice that they can just as easily put the pin back in.

I think the best way to see this is like this:

  • the student protestors: “Stop the genocide now”
  • the anti-protest voters: “Hey, if we do nothing for 6 months and alienate you, its your fault that our inaction caused you to not vote”

You are placing the blame on the wrong people, and just throwing distractions and diversions from problems that could be fixed now to make biden likely to win.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It literally cannot get worse for the Palestinians in Gaza.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

35,000 dead in Gaza. 2,300,000 people in Gaza.

Are you uninformed, misinformed, dense, or just really really really bad at math?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, so how will it get worse? Mass famine? Aid workers dying of thirst? Schools getting bombed? Hospitals getting destroyed? Aid trucks getting destroyed? Mass graves? Mass arrests? Intentional targeting of Palestinian journalists? AI drones targeting all males that are outdoors?

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can think of about 2,265,000 ways Gaza could get worse.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand what this genocide is about. It's not to exterminate the Palestinians, despite what Ben-Gvir wants. It's to make conditions so horrible that they all flee Gaza, before doing the same in the West Bank.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

yes, exactly. Netanyahu doesn't fucking care where they go or how they get there, so long as their fascist government can keep up the Kahanist and Jewish Power Party support by not working with Arab nations.