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“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” the president told CNN's Erin Burnett.

President Joe Biden said in an interview Wednesday he is all but certain Donald Trump, his predecessor and presumptive 2024 rival, will reject the results of the November election and called Trump “dangerous” for the nation.

“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” Biden told CNN’s Erin Burnett during a visit to Wisconsin this week.

“How many court cases do they have, Supreme Court cases? They’ve all said this is a totally legitimate election. ... He may not accept the outcome of the election? I promise you he won’t. Which is dangerous.”

The president went on to say other world leaders had expressed to him their fear of a second Trump presidency and pointed to Trump’s pledge to prosecute his political opponents if he enters the Oval Office once more.

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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's literally the only way you can can communicate that you will not play the game they've rigged. And yes, that has an influence whether you are willing to admit it or not.

Because here's what's going to happen if Biden gets his next term; Democrats will take that as a signal that they can be complicit in literal genocide and voters will still vote for them as long as they keep propping up worse options on the otherside. And so they will keep propping up a worse option and acting with complete disregard to their base.

You are not going to "turn things around" at some point in the vague future, there is not going to be "slow, generational progress", there's going to continue to be a choice between Fascist and Fascist Lite because Fascist Lite understands they do not need to change anything about how they're doing things in order to win elections.

Is it a terrible and costly choice to call the Dems on their game of chicken? Yup. But that's where your politics have put us. It's degraded our democracy to the point that our only remaining choice to stop the vehicle from going off a cliff is to veer it into a tree.

We could've hit the brakes earlier, there were plenty of opportunities and warning signs where the road was going, but people like you kept saying "oh no, pressing the brakes isn't viable, the corporate media told me that brakes are extremist. Just keep going this next mile and then we can slow down a little after. Just go around this one last bend and it'll turn into a U-turn."

Your politics don't work and the threats and condescension have simply lost the effect, I cannot emphasize this enough; it's not a viable political tactic any longer. If you think it's that important that Biden win then you need to be doing everything you can to influence him to radically change his behavior, not sitting here trying to convince other people to deny what they see with their eyes and hear with their ears and play make-believe with you that "just a little genocide" is ok for Democrats to support. Enough of the trolley problem bullshit, no one is buying it.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

I never said the current system is great: But given the choice between driving off a cliff and veering into a tree, your response seems to be to not tough the wheel and letting whatever happens happen.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that someone will win the upcoming election. By not voting, you're leaving it up to everyone else to choose.

By all means: Something needs to be done to fix the broken system, but saying that we should have pumped the brakes long ago, and then doing nothing about the most immediate issue - who the next president will be - doesn't help. We need to ensure that we get some president that doesn't persecute political opponents if we want to have the option of electing an actually good president in the future.

By all means: Start or join a movement to get better candidates in the future, vote for other candidates in local elections and primaries to lift them up. The fight you're talking about has to be fought long before the final two candidates are locked into the ballot, and complaining that it's lost won't effect who wins in the end.