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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

Important clarification/FAQI am not calling to coddle or excuse the behavior of bigoted men in any way!

I am calling to be kind and understanding to young men (often ages 10-20) who are very manipulable and succeptible to the massive anti feminist propaganda machine. Hope this clarifies that very important distinction. :)

Very good comments that express key points:

Edit: This post has now been removed and restored twice. I want to encourage you all:

Be decent to one another

I think this post is a valuable thing given the current state of the Fediverse, please don't fuck it up for us by being toxic in the comments.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Women have the right to feel uncomfortable around unknown men.

I guess

Men have the right to feel hurt by that sentiment.

Fair enough.

But it’s not the responsibility of women to coddle the men and make them feel better.

Okay, I'm following

The men need to understand that they can only control themselves. Part of controlling themselves is to empathize with women and try to understand why they would choose the bear.

Whoa whoa wait, so it is the responsibility of men to coddle the women and make them feel better?

Choosing the bear is stupid and irrational. But isn't it on women to stop being irrational, rather than on men to make them feel comfortable enough to make the rational choice?

Or, alternatively, if it's on men to make women feel comfortable, then isn't it women's responsibility to not cause men to feel hurt?

You can't have it both ways. Either each gender has a right to be irrational and needs to figure their own shit out, or each gender has a responsibility to help the other feel better about gender relations. What you wrote is "men have a problem? Men need to fix it. Women have a problem? Men also need to fix it."