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[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah and? What does that have to do with the absurdity of "yes he's a dictator, but I like him so it's ok?"

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Since you find it hard to use reading comprehension in a political game when discussing in game politics I'll try to help.

Between the three options of NCR run Vegas, Independent Vegas, and Vegas ruled by Caesars legion. An independent Vegas run by the autocratic Mr. House would be the best bet for the region in my personal opinion. This is because House wants nothing more than to rebuild civilization and return to his playboy lifestyle and is willing to drag the rest of the wasteland forward to get it Please tell me where I ever said that. I like it. I said he's got that going for him which is nice. That means it's better than the other two alternatives as at least the end goal is progress and improved living conditions for a majority of the wasteland It doesn't mean I particularly like it. If Edwin Robert house decides that you are a threat to his empire, then you will be eliminated or made a non threat. That's that. However, as long as you are not a threat and you are a standard citizen of the wasteland, he literally gives less than a rat's ass about you and will never intervene with whatever you're doing. So if we were doing the political compass he would be far right bottom corner. https://youtu.be/AhiR0OWKTws

If you want to tell me how it would be better run under The NCR . Please tell me how you're going to get anything done through the cattle barons and the corrupt senate.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The "liberty" offered by anarcho capitalists extends only as far as it allows them to make more money. When he gets his robot army, what, exactly, do you think he will do with it?

Also, just an FYI: if House wasn't a member of the Enclave, and that's a big if, it's only because he wasn't a team player or got betrayed on the launch date.

His endgoal was exactly the same and his business interests were closely tied with the other mega corps.

[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was literally just pointing out that he's a dictator, but you like him. The satire part was specifically in reference to the assertion that he wasn't/isn't an autocrat which I find laughable. I wasn't and didn't comment on whether he was the best choice for the Mojave, or who was and a such I genuinely don't see the relevance of rehashing the sociopolitical context of the game.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Bud you need to work on your reading comprehension .I never said he wasn't a dictator. What are you going off on. What do you think an autocrat is?

I said the choice between two dictators and a corrupt democracy was the one dictator that bent strongly libertarian.

[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

he's a libertarian utilitarian dictator not an authoritarian dictator

You said that he's not an authoritarian dictator. That assertion is laughable, and so patently untrue as to approach ironic satire. What else is there to comprehend? I really don't get where you're coming from here.

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So instead of boisterous noise, could you try using words to impart meaning to your argument instead of barking like a dog.

You realize that political identities are more than left, right politics? There's an entire spectrum of libertarian to authoritarian

[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What argument? What the actual fuck are you talking about?

[–] Forester@yiffit.net 1 points 6 months ago

You have asserted my claim that house is a libertarian autocrat and not a authoritarian dictator is untrue yet provided nothing to back it up but deriding statements.

House is not an expansionist empire, he is not unyielding in power and control. The major reason the strip is fucked up is he gives the three families his vassals too much freedom and power to self govern. Everyone on the strip is an employee or a customer he doesn't have true subjects. He leaves them all to their own devices unless it impacts his master plan. House is an autocratic ruler his prepensidency to negotiate in most areas sets him apart from the likes of Caesar (Edward Sallow), or Elder Maxim, or the Overseer's of vaults, all dictators of one type or another but not the same beast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Chart