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wanted: e-mail provider that supplies onion email addresses and allows users to use them on clearnet (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 6 months ago by freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz to c/privacy@links.hackliberty.org
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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/12515826

I’m looking for an email service that issues email addresses with an onion variant. E.g. so users can send a message with headers like this:

From: replyIfYouCan@hi3ftg6fgasaquw6c3itzif4lc2upj5fanccoctd5p7xrgrsq7wjnoqd.onion  
To: someoneElse@clearnet_addy.com

I wonder if any servers in the onionmail.info pool of providers can do this. Many of them have VMAT, which converts onion email addresses to clearnet addresses (not what I want). The docs are vague. They say how to enable VMAT (which is enabled by default anyway), and neglect to mention how to disable VMAT. Is it even possible to disable VMAT? Or is there a server which does not implement VMAT, which would send msgs to clearnet users that have onion FROM addresses?

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[–] lemmy_in@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That mismatch between DMARC verification domain and the domain of the "from" header is called DMARC Alignment. Any modern spam filter is going to mark unaligned messages as spam. Especially if one of the domains is completely non-routable like .onion.

And even if you sent the email and it got through with your .onion address, no one would be able to reply to you because the replying mail server can't even look up the MX record for your .onion domain.

[–] freedomPusher@sopuli.xyz -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m fine with all that. I’ve mostly abandoned #email anyway because I do not accept the terms Google has imposed on the world. I send most messages by postal mail when recipients have only exclusive and restrictive receiving options.

The inability of the recipient to reply to an onion address using their normal service is actually part of the idea. I would not want a gmail user to be able to use gmail to reply, for example. While Google drags people into their walled garden, I’m happy to exert pressure in the opposite direction.

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If I were to send a msg to gmail user in a way that they could simply reply from Google, then I become part of the problem by reinforcing the use of Gmail and helping Google get fed. That’s not going to happen. It’s a non-starter.