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[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's closer to Old Trek. But in the last episode of S1

spoilerwhere they take original TOS dialog for parts and mix it with modern dialog - man you really see the difference. Love it or hate it, the TOS dialog feels a lot more martial and IMO fits way better with having ranks on a ship.

There's good stuff in it, but they also seem to really have a problem making any non-quippy character, to the extent that I actually think it affects characterization. To that end, Ortegas still

spoilerisn't that well fleshed out IMHO even with the last episode being 1/3 about her. I think earlier Trek played tricks to make characters feel more different, but those worked.

Spock is certainly "in between" The Cage and TOS, but I think they're going to have to re-do something like Kohlinar to explain his change in the last episode of SNW.

It's reasonably good, but significantly different too.

[–] transwarp@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought that point about the season finale was the whole point of the episode. Pike and his style weren't right for the situation. He was like a caricature of Picard without the tactical superiority to back it up.

It also might be another reason Enterprise was the ship kept out of the Klingon war.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree, and I suppose captains get a LOT of leeway with how they run their ships. What I'm actually talking about is

spoilerthe part where Spock has the TOS lines being jarring.

I think in that case they let "easter eggs" for fans get in the way of coherently telling the story they wanted to tell. At least with your (and my) take -

spoilerhow do you get that Spock? It seems like the divergence would have left Spock more like he is now with Pikes leadership style, vs the apparent changes to TOS with Kirks style.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Your spoiler tags are not working correctly on my end, could be connect idk. But its just trying to resemble old trek. I don't think it is trying to be a 1 for 1. I'll take the delivery format over Discovery. We get episodes to focus on each character, we aren't constantly drained by chasing some seasonal baddie. Its nice.