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What Trump promised oil CEOs as he asked them to steer $1 billion to his campaign: Donald Trump has pledged to scrap President Biden’s policies on electric vehicles and wind energy & more (wapo.st)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by silence7 to c/climate

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The corruption is really open at this point.

Given how close the polls are, if want to stop this, Americans here going to need to actively work to help elect Biden. That means checking your voter registration, talking with people you know, volunteering, and financially supporting the campaign

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[–] silence7 26 points 6 months ago (4 children)

West, like the other 3rd party candidates is around to serve as a spoiler and make it easier for Trump to win.

[+] MercurySunrise -20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're in a 2 party FPTP system, it doesn't give you reasonable representation by design.

You get someone you dislike and someone you dislike even more. Voting 3rd party is literally voting against your interests. That's not an ideological choice, or a political choice, it's a deeply saddening mathematical reality.

The only way you get your position heard is by fighting candidates for your least-disliked party during the primaries. Get someone you like as the congressional or senatorial candidate. Help them get elected. Even a small number of senators or congressmen can make the difference (see Synema and Manchin for example, or hell even Boebert and MTG who all wield(ed) significant political power well beyond what their voteshare should give them).

By fighting the fight you can't win (e.g. the vote for president), you only weaken your least-disliked choice. So whoever you really don't want ends up getting elected. Why? Because the US election system sucks balls.

Voting for the Green party makes it less likely that climate change legislation goes through. That is the sad, paradoxical reality. Being an ideological crusador in this matter doesn't help anyone and is due to the reality of the shit voting system, despite the best intentions, immoral.

[–] MercurySunrise -3 points 6 months ago

You're a fool. This system only continues as long as we let it. You are the one who doesn't understand math. Many people in this country don't vote, because they fucking hate this system. There are many more non-voters than there are voters. Provide them the way out, you'll start seeing real voter turnout. Most people hear this shit you're spewing and so motherfuckers like Trump and Biden happen. FUCK YOUR SYSTEM.

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