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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 91 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Material science has just been crushing it for a good long minute now.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are materials possible that will completely change the world.

Theres probably a room temperature superconductor for example.

The number of possibilities is effectively infinite though, since its not just which atoms, but also how they're arranged.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Theres probably a room temperature superconductor for example.

I thought that one was a no go? Did I miss more news?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As in, one probably exists but has not been discovered yet. Every year scientists get them running closer and closer to room temperature

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Even just getting above the boiling temp of liquid nitrogen is a really big deal. Liquid helium is something we will eventually run out of and is largely dependent on fossil fuel extraction to be collected. Helium can't be recaptured after it escapes an open loop cooling system.

LN2 is so much cheaper to run and it's sustainable. We'll never run out of Nitrogen so long as there's power to cool it. LN2 is cheaper than craft beer.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I wonder if progress will be slow and steady until we finally get there or if it will be a huge jump past the finish line like there was in the 80s. Either way, I don't expect to see practical applications outside of the lab in my lifetime...but it's really fun to watch the science advanced, even if it is all over my head

[–] ByroTriz@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You are right, however, it's worth noting most of these materials are highly complex and contain exotic elements. Basically these compounds are not suitable for any real life application in long range energy transfer

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago

I think they mean hypothetically.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

There was one team fairly recently that thought they had developed one that got a lot of press, but it turned out to not be true.

But that was only for that one specific case, it didn't prove that room temperature superconductors can't exist in general, there are still other teams working on developing them, and theoretically they could be possible, we just haven't quite worked out what materials will exhibit superconductivity at room temperature, under what circumstances, and how to make them.

And we have some materials that come pretty damn close, Lanthanum decahydride can exhibit superconductivity at temperatures just a few degrees colder than some home freezers can manage (although at very high pressures)

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's why we name our ages after the materials within. Material science is the foundation for almost all other physical sciences.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (4 children)

How do you account for Space age and Information age?

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

We're currently in the information age, which is due to silicon. In a few hundred years, this time may reasonably be called the silicon age. Society has only recently transferred to the silicon age from the previous iron age. If we don't cause a total collapse of our society, then we will be in the silicon age for a few hundred more years, and that will likely include space colonization.

The space age you're referring to is likely the 60s, when space exploration was beginning. A decade or two isn't long enough to be considered an age.

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

the information age is easy: the silicon age!

not sure about the space age...maybe titanium age? that's about the time we figured out how to machine titanium on large scales, and for highly specialized, extreme applications (talking about the SR-71 here, mostly). could also call it the alloy age, since a number of important alloys were discovered around that time

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I thought it was atomic age and information age...

Or was that just empire earth...

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

There's the industrial age too. Which I guess you could also call "The Age of Steam" or "The Age of Coal" or some other thing.