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Strange take. Presumably if Israel was replaced with a non-ethnostate, Jewish citizens of that state would get the same rights and treatment as every other citizen.
Exactly.
If the USA tried to again be a White/European ethnostate and allow anyone with Caucasian heritage to immigrate and barred everyone else from immigrating, then no one today would accept that.
And if they went full on apartheid and started putting natives and minorities in locked down ever-shrinking reservations, people would really lose their shit.
When white nationalists try to advocate for such policies, they are rightfully criticized for being racist.
I can never understand why Israel gets special treatment in that regard.
Native Americans are still getting the shaft, so the US is still a settler-colonial state. It’s also the sole global neocolonial empire*, and Israel is its unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia. As Biden has said for decades, “Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.”
*It’s funny how NATOpedia tries to project debt-trap diplomacy onto China. The US has over 750 foreign bases around the world, while China has one anti-piracy port in Djibouti.
Tell that to 1930s european jews Or 1950s arab jews
People just hate jews, man.
But literally no one with power in the current situation wants a non-ethnostate.
This is a Hasbara take on things. The white people from South Africa didn’t disappeared after the apartheid state got dissolved. There were Jewish people in Palestine before Israel was established. Palestinian people have never had an issue treating Jewish people as equals. The only apartheid state in the region has always been Israel.
Being entitled to equal rights doesn't mean they actually get them. It also doesn't account for the fact that many Palestinians are denied citizenship or remain in occupied territories controlled by Israel and explicitly not guaranteed equal rights
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This is horseshit. Regardless of whatever it might say on paper, the indigenous peoples obviously don’t have equal rights with the Western settlers, and the indigenous Arabic language obviously doesn’t have equal standing with the newly-resurrected Hebrew. In practice not even the indigenous Jews have equal rights with the Western settlers, nor do the Ethiopian settlers.
The white people didn't disappear alltogether, but a lot of them did emigrate. Jewish people are kind of unique in the way that they face hostility everywhere outside Israel, so that's not really an option for them.
This is not true. Many of them have emigrated back to their country of origin since October 7th, 2023. Many of them have more than one citizenship and were not even born in Israel, and many of them are new converts. The IOF has been enlisting new converts like there is no tomorrow from all over the world since October 7th. The ones who have no place to go are the Palestinians who are also currently being genocide.