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I second this comment, though I'd like to point out that the Arch community isn't as toxic as people make it seem. Yes, there are a few very problematic people who think you should read the entire source code for every package possibly involved in your problem before asking for help, but there are a lot of helpful people too. They just have low tolerance for help vampires.
@Peruvian_Skies @spacesweedkid27 @stepan
I get where the #Arch communty is comng from with regard to the help vampires thing, because I deal wth it on a daily basis.
People just tend to prefer to ask instead of lookng things up, which won't get you far when trying to learn something.
However, if you cannot find the answer, ask, and I almost guarantee someone will help. I never had issues with arch, but with #gentoo, I had a few really obscure issues that the forums helped me solve.
A lot my issues regard gentoo were just me not reading ALL of the documentation...
You can't expect everyone to remember single bit of the documentation, so some tolerance should always be expected, especially if that issue cannot be solved by searching the title of it on google
I agree. The average user can't be expected to read all of the documentation, but when you run into a problem, odds are you aren't the first. So instead of immediately going to ask for help, maybe Google the issue for a while, at least skim the man page or try fixing it yourself before asking.
And ask well. There's a huge difference between "I have problem X with package Y. I tried solution Z and it didn't work. Here is some information I think could be relevant. Thanks." and "HELP program Y isn't worknig I dunno what to do???".
@Peruvian_Skies @spacesweedkid27 @stepan
Yeah, phrasing your problem as completely and concisely as possible is definitely important