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[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thank you for the response. It's calm and well reasoned. I did some math, and it doesn't support my position without assumptions, but I'm keeping it because it was effort and I think it's helpful.

My main argument is that those stats have massive amount of bias due to the amount of men the average woman encounters vs the amount of bears a woman encounters. I think the actual likelihood of being attacked by a man in an encounter vs a bear is still a lot higher on the bear's side, but I can't find stats for that. Assuming a woman encounters 1000 different men a year and 1 bear (which I think is fair), changes my math to 0.008% for the bear vs 0.00014% for the man.

Taking UK stats. As I'm most familiar with them. 41 homicides were perpetrated by a strangers in 2023. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2023#the-relationship-between-victims-and-suspects

Male population is 29.2 million as of the latest UK census. https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/demographics/male-and-female-populations/latest/

Do the math assuming all homicides were committed by men. Is a 0.00014% chance of a male killing a stranger.

The US has approx 900,000 wild bears plus maybe another 100,000 brown bears (cannot find a clear source for this). So lets call it an even 1 million. https://wildlifeinformer.com/black-bear-population-by-state/

According to your article on bears, there have been 4 deaths in the last 50 years. So averaging 0.08 deaths a year.

Which is 0.000008% chance of a bear having killed a person that year.