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I just saw the news of the soft fork announcement over on the IceShrimp instance and thought I should share here


Background Context for Anyone Out of the Loop

(newest to oldest news - top to bottom):


As mentioned (by u/steventrouble in the previous post here):

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

TL;DR the nix community forums are toxic from all sides

There's been a spout between core contributors + the foundation vs a loud portion of the community. Some related to code, but from what I've seen, the loudest have been about social issues and values.

It all boiled over when a military contractor wanted to join the list of sponsors for one of the conferences (upcoming on in USA?). That caused a lot of tension, the foundation came to a decision ~~not~~ to accept sponsorship and tried to put sponsorship rules in place for future sponsors. These were however perceived as too blurry by some parts of the community as they wouldn't prevent such a situation from happening again.

In the aftermath, a frequent contributor (John something?) was suspended and we're now here.

On top of everything an open letter was released targeting the creator of nix (Eelco Dolstra). They claim his benevolent dictatorship is not so benevolent and accuse him of multiple things.


There are people who just get on with writing code and are very helpful in the forums and other community channels, but the, let's call it "management style", of some people on the project is not beyond reproach. Big egos and a mix of bringing in issues external to the project has made the forums become a very unfun place to be.

Edited to clarify that they actually did accept sponsorship from the defense contractor.

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[–] bear 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That caused a lot of tension, the foundation came to a decision not to accept sponsorship

This part is actually not true, they are still a sponsor of NixCon NA 2024.
https://2024-na.nixcon.org/#sponsors

They proposed a policy to handle deciding sponsorships in the future, but it's pretty lackluster. It basically just says the people in power promise to do a good job, pinky swear.
https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/blob/bb7af14ae242ab87c8312bb4122b2a3cd184462d/policies/sponsorship_policy.md

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah, thanks for the correction. I didn't follow it closely.

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[–] roze_sha@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

What is this Anti Commercial-AI license you have on all your messages?