I bring this up because it seems to once again be gaining traction in the zeitgeist: I cannot comprehend why UFO hunters put so much time and effort into trying to force governments to "reveal the truth about extraterrestrial contact", but I also cannot fathom how they think aliens even have a chance of successfully contacting us in-person in the first place.
a) Why does anyone believe extraterrestrials would be able to track us down at all? Space is BIG.
b) If aliens knew we existed in the first place, please explain the math of how they'd get here. Even taking Star Trek logic into account and considering warp drive as a possibility, when considering relativity, Newton's third law and the mathematics of achieving the right conditions of either for deep space travel, warp drive still seems implausible.
c) In the mathematically improbable situation where intelligent life did manage to get here, why would they be tiptoeing around in the background for seemingly 80 or so years when they are clearly technologically superior to us and nothing humanity has available to itself could remotely stop them? It seems silly to imagine these incredible lifeforms getting here and then having an "oops we crash landed" event.
d) Lastly, governments successfully covering up such an event(s) for decades is a fairy tale. Governments playing around with flight and stealth technology for the last 100 years? Yeah that seems likely.
Do I think intelligent life exists? Absolutely. Is there a chance those beings have contacted or reached us? 99.9999999% no. Is it fun to speculate about the possibilities and portray those possibilities in stories? Of course. Should people be spending time and money forming organizations to "force the government to tell the truth", thereby wasting everyone else's time and resources and ultimately being drains on society? Absolutely not. I don't get it.
well I mean if using star trek logic then relativity and newtons third law is not to much of an issue as the tech just breaks it or the bubble is outside of it or something and of course there is the prime directive. Lately for me its anyone who thinks bit coin is a good thing.
Star Trek science breaks down very quickly when taking Third Law into account; Even the impulse drive wouldn't work as described by the franchise. Warp drive is the wibbly wobbly sciency part that breaks tech, though, absolutely agree.
That's because it was written by scriptwriters not physicists.
This is not a put down. The science in Star Trek (and in every other sf universe) is there to serve the story and advance the plot, not the other way around.
Can't afford exterior shots of shuttles landing in the original series? No problem, simply create a transporter and make up the science to explain it.
Yeah, unless you want to watch the show spending every moment objecting to what is on screen, you have to accept the core premise that future scientists and engineers know so much about space-time that they can essentially manipulate it at will.
I think this does not take into account the magical artificial gravity and structural integrity fields. All the technology is basically magic but if you accept the logic then it should be fine. You can't really start accepting the logic unless you accept it all.