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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Name one functional society that's big enough to have property rentals but doesn't.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

you can't make me!

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Much of Europe comes close enough to what I obviously meant 🤷‍♂️

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel like I can comfortably assume you are not European.

Are you thinking of ~10 more well known progressive countries with strong social policies, high GDP and strong economies.

There are 50 countries in Europe, many experiencing civil unrest, some who's economies famously tanked in recent years, several that are currently at war with each other, dozens that are recovering from recent wars, terror and loss of territory or government control.

If we look at Europe as a whole and split the idea of a "functional" society into select criteria, then yes, we can point to individual European countries and identify the structures, policies and practices that make that country functional in that aspect of a society. But that dies not make "much of Europe" a functional society.

I stand by my statement that no one place on earth is fully functional, ethically and equitably simultaneously serving all its peoples.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

You'll note that I said "much of" Europe, not the whole continent. Of course there are areas with its problems, but I should've said that Europe has quite a few functional societies. When I think of progressive policies and places I'd like to live, that region comes to mind (and you are correct that I do not live there currently). And yet, they still have landlords.

Skimming through comments before posting, someone mentioned that Muammar Gaddafi tried to do something similar. Assuming that's correct, cool, but I'm not sure many of us would've wanted to live in Libya during his regime.

So... We've got some idea that no reasonably functional society has bothered to try, even the more progressive ones. Why is that? Maybe other places tried it... How'd that go for them?