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Jfc, imagine bringing a life in to this world for the sole purpose of them being a vehicle for your ambition to, what, have some "legacy" you've convinced yourself you have, live forever? π€―ππ€¦ββοΈ
And it's people like you who are then completely shocked and horrified when your kids don't want to any contact with you anymore, or when kids of people like you never want to reproduce because they don't want to inflict a similar existence on to anyone else..
Its more that humanity is a long line of tragedy and triumph echoing through eternity, and being able to extend your accumulated wisdom to the next link in the chain is both exciting and challenging in a way nothing else in life really is.
That's a weird thing to say, because I've found my parents and in-laws and siblings/cousins to be absolutely invaluable. I think the modern western lifestyle may have seriously fucked this generation. And if you've become alienated from your parents AND your kids, that's definitely a shit existence.
But I would present an alternative. Don't. Stay in contact with the people you love, whether that's blood relatives or found family. Be nice to people and try to make the time together pleasantly memorable.
Then maybe your kids will want to share that experience with their kids, and you get to add another link in the chain of existence.
Lol sole vehicle! No way! thats too short sighted. That's the whole blood line is for.
If my kids don't want to construct a Dyson sphere so be it. I'm not going to force them. What I will do is force them be successful and build upon the success I made so that there is chance I can be part of it in some shape or form long after I'm gone. Squandering all the effort I put into this life like some trash billionare while they willing do nothing with thiers would be the biggest slap in the face to me. Think inception all you have to do put the idea. If it doesn't take that's OK they just put another brick down in the foundation.
This is the most arrogant thing I have seen in a while. Stop using kids to achieve your own goals. Use people who actually care. It shouldn't be hard to find people who want to build a Dyson swarm (a dyson sphere isn't realistic even). As for forcing people to be successful: that's not how success works, how having kids works, and ignores the shit show that is modern society.
Your act like I'm forcing them at gun point. Forcing anything on anyone is counter productive. Me doing what I want has already achieved the goals of many people that came before me. My predecessors didn't force any of that on me. I wanted it. It's just statistics and I am just the part of them that met their dreams. All everyone before had to do was keep struggling to get me here. Just like I plan for my children and teach them the value of passing it on so thier kids don't struggle as hard and have it easier to achieve thier own goals. 40k years later hey maybe something happends that I would love to be there for but that statistical chance will never happen if I don't have any kids or raise them to be all they can be in world that likes to grind us.