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What’s with all the downvotes?

Saw a few threads get blasted, and a de-federation post - did I miss the drama?

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[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup. I’m a leftist, so naturally hold some of the more “extreme” left views. But holy shit tankies will say anything to avoid admitting that communism has been abused throughout history. Lots of “Maybe those genocides and famines weren’t so bad” apologetics.

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I put it this way:

I want to maximize the level of equality in our societies. I want a floor of poverty below which a citizen cannot fall and a ceiling of wealth beyond which a person cannot rise. I do not think the tested and failed ideas of a 19th century philosopher are worth putting more time and human misery into.

We can do better, we SHOULD have learned something in the last 100ish years.

[–] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My favorite take is "Stalin was right wing".

Like how delusional can you get?

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The Khmer Rouge wasn't communist" is another good one.

[–] animist@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it wasn't, but tankies sure think it was

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually, the irony is that a lot of tankies also say that the KM wasn't Marxist, but that Stalinist Russia and Maoist China were.

Quite why, I couldn't tell you.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It’s the human rights abuse and genocide that really light their fire.

They just also happen to be interested in leftist political ideas.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That one is especially funny, but it does expose how meaningless the term is now. Everyone on the left uses "right-wing" as shorthand for "bad," and ditto for the right and left-wing.