In Europe, most want "freedom from". As in, freedom from hate speech, freedom from Nazis, freedom from gun owning cowards, freedom from bullying, freedom from corruption

Free speech is as outdated as handguns, if you want a peaceful life and happiness

Guess that's where all your problems are coming from 🤷

[–] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I didn't invent that take if you think it's strange. Ironically these interpretations of liberty originally came from European philosophers, originally Rousseau I think, so take it up with them. 🤷🏻

I don't think they were thinking about in terms of freedom from hate but more like creating social structures that enable freedoms and try to balance out everyone's rights, like the right to exist, in the face of something like hate vs eliminating any social structures and cutting out any middle man that would not allow someone to hate whichever thing and whoever they want to.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

originally came from European philosophers,

Yep, hundreds of years out of date

Times change, as do philosophies

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