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A new mass grave has been discovered at al-Shifa Hospital where a two-week siege by the Israeli army has turned the facility into a graveyard and put what was once Gaza’s largest medical complex out of service.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s lovely to imagine a country where Palestinians and Israelis live together in peace and harmony. But in practice, there’s no form of such a state that is an acceptable outcome for either side in the short or even medium term.

The Israelis that would threaten violence to resist a one-state solution are the same ones who are doing violence against Palestinians now. There's no two-state solution that is an acceptable outcome for those pursuing Israeli dominance over the entire area. There were white South Africans who also found the end of apartheid unacceptable. Some people will just be unhappy with any solution that isn't total dominance.

But Israelis and Palestinians already are semi-integrated. Israel has a sizable Arab minority and Palestinians from the occupied territories have been working in Israel. Gaza is undergoing famine now because almost all their food, power, and water come from Israel. Most people there aren't rabid fundamentalists, they just want to live their lives, and that often involves trade or other interaction with people living just a few miles away.

It's not easy to transition from apartheid to integration, but it's been done before, in a place that also had terroristic resistance, brutal oppression, and hardliners that wouldn't "accept" it. And a two-state solution isn't radically more feasible. It sounds easy to just say "set the borders and stop fighting", but there's huge issues like the right of return and the status of east Jerusalem that make setting mutually acceptable final borders a tall task.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 0 points 6 months ago

But Israelis and Palestinians already are semi-integrated. Israel has a sizable Arab minority and Palestinians from the occupied territories have been working in Israel. Gaza is undergoing famine now because almost all their food, power, and water come from Israel.

This is such a rainbows and butterflies way to describe the siege of Palestine.