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It looks like the upcoming Lower Decks season will be the last one 😭😭 I didn't have any expectations for this show but it has quickly grown to be one of my favorites. I'll miss it

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, fair enough. It would make me instantly suspicious. Hopeful since it would represent me, but very suspicious.

Let me use a different example to explain why I would be suspicious. But I also used an example that you were too close to.

Let's use the example of "Black Star Trek." A Star Trek that represents the black experience? Wonderful idea! Look at the explorations of it on DS9 already!

But until these questions were answered, I would be very suspicious:

How much black representation would there be behind the scenes? How much would it lean into stereotypes? Would this be a 1950s "romance stories written for women by men" scenario? Would "Star Trek" be put on the back burner over "black" to the point that it is only a Star Trek series in name and it isn't really "Black Star Trek?"

So yes- LGBT+ Star Trek with a lot of queer input behind the scenes and with actors like Anthony Rapp representing the community on camera, that would be great... but that is not guaranteed and I was in the entertainment industry too long to not be cynical about this sort of thing. And in the case of YA Star Trek, I am not convinced yet that it will not be a bunch of sappy romance bullshit written by people who aren't Star Trek fans and don't understand sci-fi rather than exploring strange new worlds and seeking out new life and new civilizations.

I am never optimistic about these things when they're announced this way until I find out exactly who will be involved in putting them together. I've seen this sort of thing go south way too many times now.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am never optimistic about these things when they’re announced this way until I find out exactly who will be involved in putting them together. I’ve seen this sort of thing go south way too many times now.

And therein lies the massive difference between us. I'm looking at this new show and I am for sure being cautious but I'm optimistic. I'm looking at this from the side of more representation for more people, more Star Trek stories told in a new light, more exploration of a new world, more world building, more characters, more time to spend with concepts and core tenants of Star Trek, more time to see parts of Trek that we've never seen before. I'm not blind to the fact that it could go wrong but I'm thinking about this by focusing on the good because my entire life has been dark, depressing and filled with suicidal ideation every day that I wake up. I'm also not seeing it from the perspective of "other people". I'm seeing this as the same way I saw Discovery. That they're showing parts of the Star Trek world to people who've never seen it for them before and who are finally getting attention and the spotlight put on them for a moment and get their chance to shine.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That is fair enough, that's something we will just have to disagree on. But for both of our sakes, I hope you turn out to be correct. I really do. The last thing I want is to be right. Honestly.