this post was submitted on 10 Apr 2024
288 points (98.3% liked)

memes

10278 readers
2772 users here now

Community rules

1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour

2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world

3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month

4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins

5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.

Sister communities

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Basically this comes down to the canon of saints, and the practice of "asking a saint to pray to god for you" as a prayer. The indirection here is paper-thin veil over what strongly resembles polytheism, right down to various saints having specific charges for whatever is troubling you in life, and universal iconography for the most popular ones. I agree that this comes down to external interpretation, as the internal dogma is pretty clear about what this is. But just like with transubstantiation, the outside observer isn't given enough context to reach the same conclusions as the church.

Anecdotally, I've heard the phrasing "pray to Saint Luke" rather than "ask Saint Luke to pray for you" more often than not.

[โ€“] EssentialNPC@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I agree 100% that it is initially confusing to the outsider. I will admit that I struggle with charitable feelings when this topic gets tossed around so often and it is easily researchable. Perhaps I am just tired of having the same discussion so many times.

And yeah, the "pray to X" used a shorthand by many for "ask X to pray on my behalf" doesn't help. It also gets further confounded by the huge number of both discrete and nuanced folk religions that exist simultaneously within members of the Catholic faith.