cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14119731
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this post was submitted on 10 Apr 2024
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The mythology of Christianity notwithstanding, people really get hung up on the alleged circumstances of his birth while paying precious little attention to the sermons and practices he engaged in during his life.
Would that everyone believed the Loaves and Fishes story as influential as the How Mary Got Preggers tale.
Well personally I'm aware that literally none of it happened, so might as well have some fun about the most insane parts rather than a simple dupe hack π
Abundant evidence of Messiah figures running around the Levant during the reign of Emperor Tiberius. Whether "Jesus" was one guy or a composite, you're stretching skepticism to assert the Sermon on the Mount as an event that didn't happened.
There is evidence of New York existing and there is evidence of spiders existing. Does that mean I am stretching my skepticism when I say I am convinced that Spiderman does not exist?
Fun fact if you pray to spiderman your wishes will be answered at the same rate as if you pray to Jesus.
I can go to Times Square right now and find half a dozen guys dressed in Spiderman costumes running around. And I can produce a litany of live action video that is significantly more convincing than any artifacts you could produce to prove the existence of Caeser Augustus or Abraham Lincoln or Winston Churchill. Hell, I can even get you video of a guy in a Spiderman costume who is climbing a high rise in Los Angeles right here
If a video of a guy climbing a building in a Spiderman costume was paired with a handful of comic books, and this was discovered in a sealed vault in the year 4024 AD, what kind of conversation would we be having?
Do you have a video of Jesus?
Finding a 6000 year old video of Spiderman would not change the discussion at all (besides questions about modern technology that supposedly is thousands of years old). We do have modern movies that show a Spiderman. Just like those, a video tape of a 6000 year old human spider is not proof that human-spider hybrids exist. It just proves that there are people who pretend to be a Spiderman.
So, stories about Jesus performing miracles can (maybe) be proof of people having existed who claimed or were said to be a Jesus. But they don't prove that miracles are a thing.
The Sermon on the Mount only becomes a miracle when you add in fish magic. Before that point, it's just a story about a guy who gives a speech and covers the tab for lunch.