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[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Usually there's still an out of pocket max, like $5000.

But I guess that could depend on your insurance

It's such a scam and the people voting against universal care are the same ones who complain they don't go to the doctor because it's too expensive

[–] RogueTyre@lemmy.fmhy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are voting against universal health care? Do people other than hospital and Pharma owners actually vote against that?

[–] McNasty@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

It's a point of pride for republicans to vote against the working class.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, people who want universal healthcare have a D next to their name. That is enough for 10s of millions of Americans to blindly vote against it

[–] featured@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of those with a D next to their name are fighting just as hard against universal healthcare while collecting campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies anyway. Both parties are rotten servants to the capitalist class

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, we're not going to both parties this discussion.

[–] featured@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until one of them starts to actually advocate for these policies i see no point in deluding ourselves into thinking voting blue will make any difference when they literally do not push for universal healthcare

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well, there's one party that has made it a point specifically to make things worse for people. They say it out loud. So vote for the other one while it's still a 2 party system

Any other mentality is delusional

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the people voting against universal healthcare are comfortably middle class and want to protect their ~premium coverage~ or they're on Medicare. Few people struggling to afford healthcare even vote lol

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And tons and tons are poor in red srates

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, most of the poor in red states don't vote. That's universally true across the country - there's a small minority that do, but they're not the ones stopping universal healthcare. It's business owners, landlords, wealthy blue collar workers, farmers, and retirees.

This myth that the poor vote for their own oppression is something made up to make you hate poor people.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok then, I would love to see your information so I can understand it

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So on universal healthcare I'm not sure, but based on party preference and voter participation it looks like right-wing poor people are a minority. There's a linear relationship between voting and income and there's a clear party preference based on income as well.

Poor people usually don't vote, and when they do they usually don't vote to the Right. I guess I'm just assuming that translates into things like universal healthcare. I need to go to work so I'm out of time to find out for sure though lol

[–] MelonTheMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing this, I really hadn't considered it. I've never heard/seen this before but it makes a ton of sense, wish it were more visible.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm check it out, thanks

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a buddy who has his own dental practice. Incredibly smart, motivated individual. Hates the thought of universal healthcare. Also hates not getting paid. I just don't discuss it with him lol

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how many don't go to the dentist because of poor or no insurance. He'd have more patients for sure

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He would also be guaranteed payment. I just don't understand him. He does a ton of free work for people because he's truly a great guy. He would get paid for that work. Maybe he thinks he would make less money?

[–] MelonTheMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

He'd probably have to work on more patients, since demand would surely shoot up.