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When Threads launched on Wednesday, numerous right-wing users shared(opens in a new tab) their dissatisfaction(opens in a new tab) with Twitter's biggest competitor — on Twitter of course — over having their accounts flagged for disinformation. As of Friday, however, it seems the warning label on accounts that reported the issue has since disappeared.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That depends on your definition of "right winger." Your average Republican is likely a fine person, but your average fascist isn't. If you:

  • support Jan 6 rioters
  • believe in QAnon
  • believe in phrenology
  • think we should have less immigration

You're probably not a good person. But if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you're probably fine. I don't have a problem with people who support the GOP (I do have a problem with the GOP itself), but I do have a problem with the right wing of the GOP and especially the few who the GOP consider "too radical" for the party.

The same is true for the left end of the spectrum as well. Basically, once you go too far down one end of the spectrum, there's a good chance you're self-selecting as a bad person.

If you want to use the might of government to right some "social wrong," we're probably not going to agree. Government should merely exist to maintain order and protect the vulnerable, it shouldn't be used to regiment society in any real way.

[–] cerement 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you’re delusional and gullible

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, but that doesn't make you a bad person.

I grew up as a fervent GOP supporter and thought they just weren't able to execute because I lived in a blue state, and then I moved to a red state and realized the problem isn't with any given party, but the lack of accountability when they have a clear majority.

So I now consider myself libertarian and vote for whichever candidate has a decent platform in a given election. In my state, that's usually libertarians and Democrats, and for President, it varies by election. My vote doesn't matter that much either way, but I try to do my due diligence anyway in case I can influence others who live in more interesting areas.

I dislike both major parties, but both field decent candidates from time to time. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened for President in quite some time though.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Government has been and still is used to regiment society in very real ways. In all likelihood it always will be used this way. Believing that it shouldn't serves to distract from that reality and from the actions of those who use it to achieve their goals. E.g. pushing for small government is often used to remove regulation so that capitalists can offload more of their costs (such as externalities) to the rest of society - a.k.a. socializing their losses.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is phrenology a big thing? I know it's was popular a couple hundred years ago but did it make a comeback? This is the 2nd time I've heard it brought up in the last week and I just didn't realize that was popular these days.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't speak to phrenology per se, but phrenology's modern analogue is, in my opinion, the "genetics" argument. Whereas phrenology was some attempt to "explain" how the apparent shape was indicative of underlying brain structure, contemporary "scientific" racists will use genetic differences to "explain" whatever behavior they want to attribute to it.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

People who want to do phrenology now tend to hide it in an "AI algorithm"

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not necessarily phrenology specifically, but scientific racism is a thing. One example is Stefan Molyneaux, if you want someone to look up. The "science" these people use is often poor or extremely misleading.