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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Right, let’s ignore things like frequent blackouts (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/cuba-turns-off-some-public-lighting-energy-crisis-worsens-2024-03-05/) and the fact that if you protest any decisions by the government you risk being locked up indefinitely (https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2024/country-chapters/cuba)

Surely signs of a stable government

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As if the illegal embargo and the power infrastructure issues are unrelated 🙄

Human Rights Watch is part of The Human Rights Concern Troll Industrial Complex whose purpose is facilitating regime change.

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

Blackouts are certainly a thing, and for the middle class in USA that would be considered intolerable. However, for the poor in the USA who sometimes go without electricity for lack of payment, having access to healthcare and education in exchange for the occasional blackout might be worth the trade.

As for speaking out against the government, citizens may not be incarcerated for speaking out (unless it actually threatens the government such as Manning, Snowden, and Winner), other forms of control are used. Usually that means pervasive propaganda and pitting people against each other through the Culture War.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

US has the highest incarceration per capita in the world, and it's far higher than Cuba. Meanwhile, the blockade of Cuba certainly does make things difficult for a small island. The fact that people of Cuba enjoy higher quality of life than Americans in many ways, shows how communism can persevere even under harshest conditions. Not the own you seem to think it is.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Now that’s just blatantly wrong.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/

Cuba is one of the few countries that is actually higher then the US. Cuba is 794 per 100,000, compared to the United State’s 531

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As the chart shows, 36 states have higher incarceration rates than Cuba, the country with the world's second highest prison rate. New York comes in just above Rwanda, which is still trying thousands of people in connection to the 1994 genocide. Even Vermont, birthplace of Phish, Ben & Jerry's, and the country's only socialist senator, imprisons a higher percentage of its population than countries like Israel, Mexico, or Saudi Arabia.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240308171425/https://www.vice.com/en/article/59a45x/the-mass-incarceration-problem-in-america

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That article is both severely out of date and uses raw numbers instead of per capita. No fucking shit the US is going to have more people in prison when they have 30x the population.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Individual states don't have 30x population, and not sure what makes the article out of date. Not like there's been some drastic prison reforms in Cuba or US in the past decade.