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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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Your Honor, my client might've murdered mr. Thiel with a Lego model of a Star Destroyer, but as witnessed by Exhibit A he acted in good faith and as what can only be described as service to the community. We move for full acquittal.
@V0ldek @BlueMonday1984 You gotta give it to capitalism, it makes an excellent non-personified villain.
Now why would you insult Peter Thiel like that. He's made it his life's work to become that personification and he's worked very hard at it.
@YourNetworkIsHaunted Unlike capitalism he doesn't star in a lot of movies. And honestly, I don't think he makes for a very believable villain. No real human is like that. Maybe he could star in some parody movie where his exaggerated opinions make for a joke.
wdym non-personified, it's this guy
@V0ldek @BlueMonday1984 <sarcasm>I like ‘Blade Runner’ way better. I’m a capitalist. ‘Blade Runner’ is the capitalist movie. ‘Star Trek’ is the communist one. There is no money in ‘Star Trek’ because you just have the transporter machine that can make anything you need. The whole plot of ‘Blade Runner’ revolves around a perfect society run by oligarchs exploiting the masses</sarcasm>
What is it about these Tech Bros that causes them to interpret dystopian warnings as a playbook?
@allpoints @V0ldek @BlueMonday1984 Oh it's clear why the people on the TOP want the dystopia.
What baffles me is the people on the bottom who want them.
I wonder how the workers in Blade Runner justify the situation of replicants. There's the guy who made the eyes of those machines, he didn't seem to live the same comfy life as the guy living on top of the fucking pyramid. I guess he did his work because it was "interesting". The other workers probably went along with it because the wars meant they got cheaper commodities or some other all too common justification.
It's been a long time since I saw the movie, wasn't the guy with the eyes in the vat in the beginning a black-market dealer that the replicants used to hide?
OTOH "genius tinkerer who prefers to live in the slums" is a cyberpunk trope - maybe from this guy!
Edit I love Bladerunner but the movie is 90% vibes, don't expect it to be entirely consistent in how its economic system works.
@gerikson @zbyte64
The guy with they eyes in his lab was just one of the specialist manufacturers.
He was the person that put the replicants in touch with the "genius tinkerer", who then gave the replicants access to Tyrell. :D
@zbyte64 They justify it the same way that the workers of the South justified slavery, or the way that workers in the west justify sweat shops.
Ignoring it, or making shit up.
@V0ldek @BlueMonday1984 Also, Star Trek is science fiction that explores new ideas, while Star Wars is fantasy that trots out old ideas with new hardware. Mr. Thiel reveals himself to be stuck in the past, politically, philosophically, and scientifically.
kinda continues to surprise me how many people don't know the, uh, roots of the Star Wars bits
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yes, that's a feature for Thiel too
@V0ldek @Illuminatus Never before have I felt this strongly that a social media post needed quotation marks. Like a missile, my finger grew closer and closer to the block button as I read, and only when I got to the end was I able to hit the self destruct abort button. 😂
@V0ldek @BlueMonday1984 Jury nullification with a ticket tape parade thrown in.