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Members of the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol have warned America for three years to take former President Donald Trump at his word.

Now, as Trump is poised to win the Republican presidential nomination, his criminal trials face delays that could stall them past Election Day, and his rhetoric grows increasingly authoritarian, some of those lawmakers find themselves following their own advice.

In mid-March, Trump said on social media that the committee members should be jailed. In December he vowed to be a dictator on “day one.” In August, he said he would “have no choice” but to lock up his political opponents.

“If he intends to eliminate our constitutional system and start arresting his political enemies, I guess I would be on that list,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose). “One thing I did learn on the committee is to pay attention and listen to what Trump says, because he means it.”

Lofgren added that she doesn’t yet have a plan in place to thwart potential retribution by Trump. But Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), who has long been a burr in Trump’s side, said he’s having “real-time conversations” with his staff about how to make sure he stays safe if Trump follows through on his threats.

“We’re taking this seriously, because we have to,” Schiff said. “We’ve seen this movie before … and how perilous it is to ignore what someone is saying when they say they want to be a dictator.”

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 42 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

https://images.app.goo.gl/fQWwqgb2CPyjUDkM7

Jokes aside, if the US falls to fascism, it’s gonna be a massive problem for Europe. Imagine fascists in charge of the biggest nation with a history of colonialism, and the world’s largest stockpile of nukes.

It would be awesome if the other first-world nations started taking this threat seriously, before it’s too late.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

We need the world to issue sanctions against the US. Please sanction us. We lost control of the government and need your help

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Giving our oligarchs the same treatment as russian oligarchs would be a good start. Seize their property and assets wherever and whenever possible.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 14 points 7 months ago

Certainly I think it would be fair that they pay reparations for their crimes.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Europe? Nuclear war is a threat to all animals on earth.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Very true. But I doubt elephants have the capacity to intervene.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

As soon as Botswana delivers the 20,000 elephants to Germany, you will observe the world being reshaped by German war elephants.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Well, we have animals in Europe. Like, um... rabbits.

[–] tarmarbar@startrek.website -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

European here.

This comment takes assumption that by "US falling to fascism" you meant Trump taking control of the USA. Please ignore everything if I misunderstood.

Trump's among the few US presidents that didn't start a new war. Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2A22QR/

He also scaled down wars in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq. I AM NOT SAYING THOSE ACTIONS WERE GOOD OR BAD FOR THE USA, or for the rest of the world for that matter. And I'm really not qualified to discuss that.

This comment is ONLY a direct reply to a concern that Trump's rule should have Europe worried in the sense that he'll nuke us.

Maybe someone else nukes us as a consequence of his inaction, idk. But Trump nuking Europe is what you said, and I disagree.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not talking about trump, actually. He’s just a carnival barker. If he wins the next election, he’ll do whatever his handlers want him to do, which will hasten things. But him losing will not stop the fascist movement in progress. There’s a group of actual fascists who have been working on this for decades. Some are in Congress, some are high up in organisations like the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society (writing bills and selecting judges), and others are consultants and advisers.

I’m actually concerned that when trump loses, people will think the threat has passed. His loss will mitigate it somewhat, but it won’t stop them. A large part of the threat is Christian nationalists in Congress, the Supreme Court, and in many other seats of power throughout the country.

[–] tarmarbar@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

Got it, ignore what I said then, I don't have enough knowledge to talk about what you're talking about.