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Oh good, a light-hearted romp where half the characters act like idiots, that's exactly what a Star Trek movie about a clandestine blackops organization should be like
Deep Space Nine made it absolutely clear that Section 31 is an illegal black-ops org with garb somewhat reminiscient of Nazi storm troopers, they were the bad guys.
Mission: Impossible, the longest-running, pro-CIA anti-socialist propaganda series in US history. OK... so now Star Trek is about making illegal black-ops Nazis look cool?
Fuck these fucking producers. I want my gay space communism back.
"Illegal?" DS9's S31 was protected by Starfleet Command. They were completely untouchable.
They can be both protected and illegal. Sisko noted that the organization was completely antithetical to the laws of Starfleet, e.g. committing genocide against the Changlings of the Dominion (they used the actual word "genocide" to describe what Section 31 did in the show). But their existence was neither denied nor acknowledged by Starfleet. This is part of the reason why he asked Bashir to act as a double-agent.
It was clearly analogous to the CIA, which for decades has been collecting money from the illegal drug trade and supporting terrorist organizations around the world, all in the name of "national security." It was a critique of the US government, like most of the Star Trek episodes that deal with the moral shades of gray within the laws of Starfleet. It is clear from their political commentary that the shows morality was staunchly anti-fascist.
And this new film on Section 31 completely reversing their former politics and joining with and celebrating the fascists is more than I can stomach.
If they're nominally illegal, and those responsible for upholding the law are working with them, they're not really illegal at all, are they?
If a police officer commits murder but the D.A. covers it up and the officer is never charged with a crime, does this make murder by the police legal?
Yes, it is illegal, and the government does not enforce laws consistently. The point is, this is a moral failing of Starfleet/the US government. This is an injustice.
S31 was right though, the Founders should’ve been exterminated
I'd personally prefer that to the tone Discovery took
That was my thought, I'm quite up for this. I enjoyed The Voyage Home, I enjoyed The Trouble with Tribbles - I wouldn't want all Trek to be like that but there is absolutely a place in the franchise for light-hearted takes on Trek.
I have nothing wrong with lighthearted takes on Trek, but choosing to make the movie about "fascist space emperor joins the CIA" lighthearted seems like a dubious choice. I guess we'll see how they portray it but given how Trek has handled S31 so far, I don't want to get my hopes up.