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Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has delivered a blunt warning that Europe has entered a "pre-war era" and if Ukraine is defeated by Russia, nobody in Europe will be able to feel safe.

"I don't want to scare anyone, but war is no longer a concept from the past," he told European media. "It's real and it started over two years ago."

His remarks came as a fresh barrage of Russian missiles targeted Ukraine.

Russia has intensified its bombardment of Ukraine in recent weeks.

Overnight into Friday Ukraine's air force said it had shot down 58 drones and 26 missiles and Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said energy infrastructure had been damaged in six regions, in the west, centre and east of the country.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Um, sir, cows are brown sometimes.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you’re implying my point is a non-sequitur, it’s directly from your source and relevant context. Not a single nation voted against the resolution, both the African Union and the Arab League strongly supported intervention. I think it’s pretty clear in hindsight it was inappropriate for NATO to handle but a one time intervention backed by the UNSC does not a doctrine make. It definitely doesn’t justify Russia invading Ukraine or stealing Crimea.

Edit: just to head off any Yugoslavia bombing rebuttals, UNSC 1203 was also passed with no votes against.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In other words

It's negotiable when capital is on the line.

Because now the rape is a systemic revenge policy but all of a sudden the oil isn't paying for everyone's college and healthcare.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Negotiable when authorized by a UNSC resolution.

Not sure what you’re trying to say about a systemic revenge policy.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So

Negotiable when the capitalist vetos, aka all the modern vetos, agree. Glad we're on the same page.

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/featured-documentaries/2019/9/7/unspeakable-crime-rape-as-a-weapon-of-war-in-libya

https://www.france24.com/en/20120920-muammar-gaddafi-rape-weapon-libya-annick-cojean-le-monde-sexual-slavery-harem-abuse-women

The primary evidence that Gaddafi was a bad bad dictator in the eyes of public opinion were rape allegations. There wasn't actually a lot of evidence of this, but there was enough that between that and his creepy women bodyguards/sex slaves that no one really denies it unless they're on the full on unhinged America Always Lies train.

So whenever people would ask "what makes Gaddafi so bad besides not liking America," bam, he's a serial rapist.

The problem is he also did a lot of demonstrably good things for the Libyan people, but you start looking like a borderline Dave Chappelle sketch if you defend that aspect.

The other problem, as outlined in the first article, is that Libya's systemic rape problem is/was way, way, WAY worse than before. Only now they don't even get the social benefits they used to.

Which rather puts a point on the issue that NATO and the UN didn't actually give a shit about Gaddafi being a rapist. That was just an excuse for intervention for the people unsure about bombing another group of brown people with oil.

Hopefully it calms down now that civil war is actually ending, but the problem is they're an unstable African country with oil across from Europe so.

Good luck.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Those are some sad articles. The whole Libya intervention reminded me of “don’t let a good crisis go to waste”. The west once again naively thought they could be the harbinger of democracy and fanned the flames. I agree that it certainly doesn’t seem better there than it was 15 years ago, regardless of how much contempt I hold for autocrats.