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[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gonna continue this from the other guy before me;

Tolerance is not a paradox. Tolerance is a contract. Those who break the contract of tolerance with intolerance no longer deserve it, and should be excluded from the protections given to those who do follow it.

[–] solarbabies@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a demagogue. There is no nuance or critical thinking in your take whatsoever.

Watch this and tell me it's impossible to tolerate "intolerant" people.

You're just hurting yourself by not putting effort into discussions that would win you more allies.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago

Watch this and tell me it's impossible to tolerate "intolerant" people.

I appreciate the share, but the last thing I want is youtube to start adding political content to my feed after i've spent all this time curating its algorithm into something that is mine.

There is no nuance or critical thinking in your take whatsoever.

There is a lot of nuance in my statement. But you are right, I didn't give any examples. So let's pull one of yours from earlier;

How can the point of Pride be to "tolerate everyone with no exceptions," while at the same time "never tolerate the intolerant"? You can't have both!

Q: Is a gay man allowed at Pride? A: in general, yes

Q: What if you learn they don't like furries? A: then no, they can't.

Q: What if they want to be accepting of furries but they don't know how? A: then sure, yes, let's discuss.

Q: What if they killed a furry once? A: then no, absolutely not!

Q: What if they went to prison for 20 years for their crime, realized what they did was wrong, and decided to make a concerted effort every day to be more positive & inclusive, which is why they now attend Pride every year and donate to LGBT+ organizations in honor of the person they killed? A: well then yes, clearly they're an ally. they can come!

Q: Okay, what if they don't like leather strap ons? A: ah, then no...

This sounds like the reading of a contract with a list of arbitrary rules. Every social convention i've seen has also been incredibly arbitrary.

Breaking a social contract doesn't require permanent and total retribution; it usually has a lot of if this then that conventions built right into it. Someone making an off color joke requires a 'hey bro, thats not cool' compared to a neo nazi advocating for the camps to come back at a local government office.

My point is that once the social contract is broken, you aren't breaking it when you call someone else out for doing so.