There's this whole Jack Chick knockoff world that has been around for decades despite having the worst arguments.
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Anyone who knows literally anything about evolution knows what a strawman this is.
"we didn't come from monkeys"
"correct, and you also didn't come from your 5th cousins John and Ester." (as far as we know)
Their names are Johann and Esther, okay? And yes, I do. Sincerely, Mr. Habsburg.
Well Darwin never said we came from monkeys, but that homo sapiens are related to a relative that branched off from monkeys. And I don't get why people are "insulted" to believe we may be related to monkeys and primates or other animals.
Humans are animals. We're on the same spectrum, we're as much a part of the animal kingdom as monkeys, giraffes, and lions and zebras. And that, to me, is pretty damn beautiful. We're not some special Saintly concoction of unicorn farts and sunshine - we're animals and we're related to other animals. What's so difficult to accept about that????
Correct, he did not say we came from monkeys. But rather than explain how it works, it's quicker for me to use the cousin analogy. Most people aren't even going to listen long enough to hear the end of that even.
As for the "animal" bit, I'm guessing it's because of the negative association people have with being compared to an animal. "acted like an animal" and all that. If not, then who knows. I'm sure even they can't explain it.
I don't think people think much about the actuality of what Darwin said or the truth of their own animalness and being part of the animal kingdom.
It always irks me to see an anti-evolutionist pointing to or making fun of a picture of an ape because, to them, being compared to great animals is some sort of smutty filth. I hate to think what kind of brutality they enact on cats and dogs around them, or even kids.
The idea that we're part of the Animal kingdom, to me, is such a fascinating and great concept. I just do not get people who are insulted or "turned off" by that idea at all.
What's amazing is that evolution is such a beautiful process. If anyone is of a religious bent, it should really only strengthen their beliefs, not threaten them in any way.
The problem is their special books all say the universe isn't old enough for evolution to be a thing
Don’t kid yourself. These people have never read any religious book in their life. They parrot whatever stupid shit Fox and right wing media spews around.
We barely estimated the age of the world, if there is a thing that we know better it's the natural evolution. On the topic of the universe, we have a much better understanding of it tho, and we know it is at least about 13.7257 billion years (yes i searched it), certainly not ... a couple of thousands years old. The universe however has an inner beauty that I can't replicate. A beauty that a creationist cannot understand. Maybe it's fair to say that nautural unintentional processes are in fact higher above what they came up with. I had a pocket booklet with all the constellations and the nebulae and galaxy...I want it so badly now.
Or 26 billion years old:
https://phys.org/news/2023-07-age-universe-billion-years-previously.html
Looks at the human bodies anatomy
(X) Doubt
Works on flowers too.
Well it may not always produce what we call perfection, certainly there are things about our bodies that could be better. But that doesn't mean it isn't an elegant and beautiful process.
The ones who deny evolution don't understand that you can have evolution and god at the same time. Problem is that these people (not all religious people ofc) want their book of fairy tales to be true not understanding (or not wanting to understand) that those events aren't real.
If I remember right, Darwin wasn't anti-religion and was in fact a constant church goer. So when I recently saw a bumper sticker showing Darwin's gravestone and stating "Guess Darwin found out he was WRONG," it left me utterly scratching my head.
Darwin didn't say anything about god not existing or that evolution meant that god didn't exist. For him, I'm sure, evolution was the process god himself designed to propogate life forms and diversity on earth. I don't think religion and evolution have to be in competition with each other.
From what I heard he became agnostic near the end of his life, not sure is it true but even if it is that happened long after he wrote Origin of spicies.