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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would do that because that's how you are socialised as a woman growing up. Your value is your youth and how beautiful you are. That's it.

It is not easy to just rid yourself from socialising. As a man this can be hard to get when it's about beauty standards because beauty standards imposed onto men are not even close as restrictive as those imposed onto women.

There are many examples for unattractive, funny looking, old, chubby, etc. male characters in media. For female characters that's the exception.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t know, I really don’t get the reasoning. I can understand being conditioned so that your subconscious gives a higher importance to your body than what it should be, and that can be hard to completely get rid of, but you consciously typed “I would rather be alone than being with a person who just finds my body good enough”. That doesn’t seem like something egodystonic you’re actively trying to fight.

And as for representation in media, are all those funny looking/chubby characters actual, three-dimensional characters or are they just the comic relief whose main point of their personality is “he’s a nerd/fat/ugly”? Because for fat kids that’s exactly the opposite of body positivity, and the only reason why there’s so many males and little females in that trope is because making fun of a woman for her appearance is generally something frowned upon (meanwhile for men it’s totally ok, at least until recently)

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would I fight it though? I don’t see it as a necessity to have a romantic relationship with someone.

There are plenty of examples where the male character is not attractive and is also not made fun of.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because you said it’s objectifying yourself? And that’s not a good thing? And saying you’re not that interested in romance is very different from “I would rather be alone than being with a person who just finds my body good enough“. That means you’re interested, as long as the other person finds your body very attractive.

Again, define “not attractive”. Because ugly and fat characters are almost always made fun of. If “not ugly, but not gorgeous” characters count as “not attractive” I can find a lot of female ones too.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I feel like you really try to twist what my point is or I am not good at explaining it in English. When you have been told your whole life that all you have as value is how physically attractive you are, the way you approach relationships is different.

While a man perhaps can still believe the other person likes them, even though they only find their body ok or good enough, for many women this is much harder. That has a lot of consequences for our society, including the difference in behaviour in online dating apps, why women are less likely to buy sex, dead bedrooms, etc.

It's just a matter of what feels worse for me. And for me it feels much worse to be with a man who settled for me, than to be single.

Regarding representation in media, I won't argue with someone who seriously tries to say female characters have a diverse representation just as male characters. That's frankly a ridiculous take. Arguing with someone who seems to live in a different reality doesn't make sense.