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AdvantagePlus4711 at 2023-07-09 07:47:17+00:00 ID:
jr93s4kYeah, Mondeles... But I guess you will tell the British to give up on Cadbury, the French to give up on LU, the Swiss to give up on Toblerone and Milka, the Americans to give up on Tang... And so on. During WWII companies like Coca-Cola, Ford and IBM still worked in Germany and still no people have problems with that... Even though IBM made the system they used to track the Jews in the concentration camps... Or Bayer, the world's largest agro chemical company... That during WWII was IG Farben, the company that produced the Zyklon-B used in the gas chambers... Or the export of AT4 and Javelin (built in northern Ireland, but Swedish arms manufacturing was involved in the development...) To America, that has killed millions of Iraqis (including hundreds of thousands of children) and over 300,000 civilians in Afghanistan...
The_Booz (OP) at 2023-07-09 07:57:40+00:00 ID:
jr94j6hThis is typical Russian propaganda with a hint of "what about ism".
BTW What happened during the WW2 is part of history that all Europeans learned from, and therefore most companies have left Russia. Mondelez, Nestle and Unilever are the ones that are still there and needs to be taught a lesson.
AdvantagePlus4711 at 2023-07-09 08:29:32+00:00 ID:
jr96syxYou are talking about 3 of the world's largest food producers... So good luck.
And no we didn't learn anything from WWI and WWII, because then we would know that Russia is really a sleeping bear. And they said when the Warsaw pact fell that the only thing was that NATO should not move closer to Russian borders... And now we have Aegis on land in Poland, not that far from the border, that can launch nuclear missiles and the Baltic States are all in NATO... Remember that a cornered animal will usually fight for their life. The same goes with China, and America saying that China can't claim the South China Sea because it's too far from mainland China, or about 1/10 of the distance from mainland US to Guam, or 1/25 of the distance to get to America's base Diego Garcia. Or when the news screams about Chinese planes in Taiwan's ADIZ... that is an American brainchild that goes over 300km in over mainland China and way beyond Taiwan's national airspace... It's like if we in Sweden would complain every time a Norwegian airplane flying closer to the border than Bergen or if the Mexicans would start complaining every time an American airplane flies South of Las Vegas...
The_Booz (OP) at 2023-07-09 11:58:56+00:00 ID:
jr9mg8dThe idea of "we can't do anything about it" comes from people living in countries ruled by dictatorship. The first days of the war everyone in the whole world said, Ukraine is Russia in a couple days. Boy they were wrong.
If we as Swedish people would lay down and stop fighting for our freedom and peace, we wouldn't be where we are today.
The idea of being afraid of nuclear war is something russians wants u to fear. But everybody knows very well that everyone is f:Ed if nukes start being used. However using the argument of fear should never be grounds for giving up.
bguvfi at 2023-07-09 08:09:44+00:00 ID:
jr95echJa! Propaganda! Alla som inte håller med mig är hjärntvättade och dårar. Jag vet den ultimata sanningen!
TheMacarooniGuy at 2023-07-09 08:36:50+00:00 ID:
jr97b7uDet är ärligt talat lite roligt att under senaste tiden så verkar hela jävla svenska reddit gått o blivit ett autistiskt hive mind igen. Gillar även att op visste att den där personen som tog upp någon philadelphiaost visste att det var "fel" just på grund av ops egna åsikter vilka alla ska dela, annars är man ju en rysk propagandabot. Kunde ju lika gärna letat efter hur stor den var eller om den innehöll laktos etc.
bguvfi at 2023-07-09 08:54:50+00:00 ID:
jr98lb6Haha alltså verkligen! Många på Reddit som klagar på hur "amerikaniserat" Sverige blir samtidigt som de hävdar utan rum för dialog att den svenska världsbilden är den enda som existerar på en moral och korrekt nivå, allt annat är progaganda och bör ses ned på genast... Precis som en stereotypisk trångsynt amerikan.
zargaan at 2023-07-09 08:08:55+00:00 ID:
jr95c9xВсе обычная американская пропаганда.
The_Booz (OP) at 2023-07-09 08:26:39+00:00 ID:
jr96lv2First post ever?
zargaan at 2023-07-09 08:27:03+00:00 ID:
jr96mtoИ что?
city-in-the-sky at 2023-07-09 09:38:01+00:00 ID:
jr9bk2yWhataboutism!!! Ad hominem!!! Propaganda!!! Straw man!!! Is that a hecking logical fallacy? You lose.
Sawgon at 2023-07-09 11:18:50+00:00 ID:
jr9iyopThanks, obvious troll account created 2 months ago.
underliggandepsykos at 2023-07-09 08:13:39+00:00 ID:
jr95ojkDet kanske är whataboutism men det visar också vilket utbrett hyckleri som pågår.
The_Booz (OP) at 2023-07-09 08:16:49+00:00 ID:
jr95wjaNej han sätter historiska händelser ihop med vad som händer nu, så att lättpåverkade personer inte kan se skillnaden.
underliggandepsykos at 2023-07-09 08:37:10+00:00 ID:
jr97c2pTyskland har väl sonat en del för sina krigsbrott och de har inte startat krig, invaderat länder och underminerat demokratiska regeringar gång gång, massvis, sedan WW2. USA med sin blodiga historiska står knappast under samma kritik som Ryssland eller Kina gör.
AdvantagePlus4711 at 2023-07-09 13:30:54+00:00 ID:
jr9vupoTo see the difference... Remember that the US Iraq invasion was basically a false flag operation based on lies and greed for oil, in the end America caused the death of 2 million Iraqi civilians, and people like you were probably cheering for America all along. Then in 2020 (just 2 years before Russia invaded Ukraine) we had American troops deliberately targeting a car killing 9 children in Afghanistan and that got "shit happens in war" (A war with over 250,000 dead civilian Afghani, around 100,000 of them children)... But when Russia killed 3 children in Ukraine people around the world were screaming war crimes. Or right now, the US has taken the decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine... While the international court is investing Russia for war crimes because they used cluster munitions. And the same with the people that screamed war crimes about Russia using thermobaric weapons in Ukraine, but no people scream war crimes about America using them in Afghanistan or Syria as late as 2020 if not even later.
So yeah, by telling the truth I'm spreading misinformation and trying to influence people... When in reality I'm just so fucking fed up with the news vilification of Russia and glorification of America.
Look at the latest news of the American-Chinese semiconductor war... the US started it, but now they are blaming China for fighting back... And all western news does is repeat the blame on China. Or Israel and the Palestinians... Israel has over the past 30 years killed more Palestinian children (under 18) than the Palestinians have killed Israelites in total, blocked import of medicine and food to the Palestinian areas and so on... And still I would bet that not one of you protested and demanded boycotts of Israeli companies and companies working in Israel after Israel's latest attacks on Palestinians last week?! And again China and this time the Uighurs in labour camps... China's population is × 4 US population, and still America has more black people in the prison system than China has normal prisoners, political prisoners and people in work camps put together... And the Chinese Uighurs who are forced labour in the work camps get paid at least Chinese minimum wage... Something not even people working in restaurants and bars in America doesn't get... Or about × 4 what the US penal system is paying inmates fighting wildfires! But again, that's not what we read in the news as it's not following the agenda that the US is all good and Russia and China are all devils.
Sawgon at 2023-07-09 11:19:37+00:00 ID:
jr9j0yt"Ingen gjorde något förr så det är ingen idé att man börjar nu för då är man en hycklare!!1!1"