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[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

That is 100% true in a capitalist society. You are measured by your ability to produce.

Edit: Apparently this needs some clarification. You are measured by your ability to produce for your owner.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's also true in the woods, if you don't do anything useful you'll just die.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

Not true. If I have a group of people and they believe I'm extremely wealthy I don't have to do anything but promise to share my wealth with them according to how much I value them, making them compete with each other for my affection. This counts as work and it takes skill but I wouldn't say that doing this is useful.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

... or by your ability to steal from others and getting away with it.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

This is wishful thinking. People are not paid according to their productivity, although it is a minor factor. People are paid accordingly for a variety of factors including region, negotiating ability, charisma, job demand (the more a job is objectively helpful the less it is paid because people are willing to do it for its own merits), and network if they are commoners. If they are born into the ruling class or have amassed enough wealth to live through arbitrage, there is no requirement to produce anything other than the idea that you are productive.

The owner doesn't pay proportionally to their worker's ability to produce, they pay according to how little they can get away with since in order to profit it is necessary to minimize expenses. If two employees are important but the less productive employee refuses to work for less than a certain amount and the more productive employee is satisfied with what they're being paid, the less productive employee will be paid more.