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Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice
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Hate to break it to you but Chinese citizens generally live better than we do. They have affordable housing, healthcare and food.
Thats nice. We're talking about free elections here.
Actually, we were talking about American elections, and you tried to change the subject to China and Russia.
Because you seemed to have trouble wrapping your head around how much worse "unfair elections" could be, and then you still ignored those examples and tried to claim US elections couldn't possibly get any worse.
Absolutely absurd statement. And you still cant seem to wrap your head around why that is.
I know i said I'd ignore you but you just can't seem to stop yourself from throwing more of these shitty disingenuous arguments my way.
..?
You currently do not have fair elections. I didn't say it couldn't get worse.
I never said it couldn't get any worse lol.
You can ignore me all you want, ignorance is bliss. I'm not arguing lol. America, demonstrably doesn't have free and fair elections. You are trying to deflect by talking about Russia and China, when your country is literally already in the same boat. Nobody wants Biden or Trump.
Go argue with yourself then:
"You think it can get worse than an 80 year old Zionist vs an 80 year old fascist?"
And leave me out of it.
This entire thread started with the insinuation that we could get rid of them in 4 years. I'm saying that if things get worse we won't even have that choice in the future. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. I provide China and Russia as simple examples to get it through your hear and you then claim I'm changing the subject. You're the one wallowing in your own ignorance.
Hopefully I've cleared all this up for you now and you can let me take a shit in peace.
Are you ignoring me or slandering me, make up your mind.
THE US, RUSSIA AND CHINA: NONE OF THESE HAVE FREE ELECTIONS.
Do you understand what I'm saying now? We don't need to bring up the other two, while we're discussing America.
Maybe proof read your angy dump posts before hitting submit.
We have a 2 choices, they have 1. 2 is choices are better than 1, even if both choices are shitty. One shitty candidate still has to compete with the other shitty candidate to win votes. This is better than 1 shitty candidate with full reign and no accountability.
Perhaps you dislike both candidates equally, and have somehow decided that you will always hate both candidates equally, now and in the future. In that context, perhaps you think you are making a concrete point.
But I am not you. I'd prefer Biden over Trump, and I can vote for one over the other. If i couldn't, that would be worse, for me, and many millions of other voters who don't share your equal/perpetual disdain for both candidates.
So yes, it can get worse. If not for you, then for others, who are not you. If you still don't understand the source of disagreement here, God have mercy on you.
Maybe this question will help you further understand;
Which candidate do you vote for if you're against genocide?
Depends. What magical being comes down from the Heavens to end genocide in this world if I don't vote?
So you don't get a choice? Hmmmm what does that remind me of?
Reminds me of having more than one issue to vote about.
So you're pro genocide lol.
You failed on your little trap but went for it anyway. Nice.
Not really.. If you're voting for Biden, who is providing the weapons for a genocide, you are pro genocide lol.
And I asked how not voting for him this cycle would stop genocide and you doubled down on your whole "see voting doesn't matter so you're not any better off than Russia / China" quip.
So all things being equal I consider the thousands of other issues in this world that might be affected by this election, and somehow that means I wants to murder thousands of innocent people.
How about this, if you keep replying to me with bullshit like this instead of spending your time doing something constructive to stop genocide, you support genocide.
You don't think me telling Americans their country is aiding a genocide isn't anti-genocide? lol. Interesting take.
Therefore all Americans are genocidal maniacs. Ok dude!
Anyone voting for a candidate aiding a genocide is pro genocide.. Yes. That is how logic works.
https://lemmy.world/comment/8827840
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