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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

Your barely-in-context paper is not support for your main argument :

However, this arguably applies less to white men than any other demographic, because such behavior is so consistently condemned and shamed when exhibited by white men.

Do you have any citations that actually support your claim? Because it sounds like vibes "please don't say mean things about my group" bullshit.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

That's not my main argument, it's merely a supporting clause.

OP asserted that

white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.

I countered that by pointing out that it's obvious that any human being tends to prefer people who they consider similar to themselves. That's my main argument.

And if that is true, then attempting to frame such behavior as particular to white men is just silly and unproductive.

I obviously can't definitively measure the amount of social stigma around white male prejudice, but I don't need to. I'm not saying that white men are definitely less biased than other demographics, I'm merely pointing out that it's a distinct possibility, even as you all indicate that they are the demographic most deserving of condemnation for such behavior.

Now, one could make the argument that even though white men may not be especially biased, the effects of their bias may have greater impacts on other demographics due to the disproportionate amount of power they collectively wield. I think that's a fair point, but it doesn't really hold any ethical implications, it's simply a description of a material reality.

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Normally, I only comment when i have something to add, but I just want to commend you for your high quality contribution to this sensitive topic.

Really learning a lot from this. Your arguments are solid and your phrasing is respectful. Thank you!

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's really nice to hear. Your comment did add something, at least for me!

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