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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

No, the concern is not what people will see on TikTok but what data TikTok is offshoring from their devices to servers in China. It's a massive surveillance operation.

Now, why would you be trying to dress this up as a free speech issue, I wonder?

[–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would argue in addition to that, that it is the things you don't see on tiktok. They censor specific content that is criticising china or portraying them in a bad light. I'm shure there is good content on the platform. But I genuinely do not understand how people can still use tiktok, same as meta platforms (though they don't censor that much). Do they not know? Or don't care?

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Do they not know? Or don't care?

Some people one, some people the other, some people both.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Why don't they just ban those data gathering practises, then? :P

(jk I know why)

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's quite ironic coming from the USA! Did the patriot act got amended recently or is this sheer hypocrisy?

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ahh, "but what about". Not "That's not true, here's proof". Interesting approach, even if ineffective.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck?! This shit with tiltok is one of the ugliest imperialist shit the USA pulled this century, dropping the rule of trade to the full on empire mode, and you're talking here about whataboutism?

We have a country literally stealing a company because it's profitable and can spread influence! And you're here like "China bad"?

Is this the strategy? Anytime something bad from the US comes up you deflect for it to be about China I guess?

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Oh boy, you think this is the worst thing America has done, even this week? Now I don't know if I should tell you about the rest...

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005, USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2006, USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2009, USA PATRIOT Act Sunset Extension Act of 2011, USA FREEDOM Act of 2015, etc.

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Except they already made Oracle handle all that and they can easily legislate privacy protections without banning TikTok entirely. And, again, it is my right as a citizen to install whatever app I want even if it is spying on me, just like the rest of my apps do. I could film every second of my life and put it up on Facebook or a personal website and the Chinese government could watch it and there's not a damned thing the US government can do about it.

[–] cmder@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Why don't you install chinese wechat version ? Oh no you don't because government like China restriced acces to it. The point is to protect the mass that doesn't know they are being spy on, if you want to use it jist grab the apk from internet.

[–] mihnt@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I could film every second of my life and put it up on Facebook or a personal website and the Chinese government could watch it and there’s not a damned thing the US government can do about it.

Sounds like your free speech hasn't been effected then.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

They've still been offshoring all data to China in contravention of direct orders to stop. Your right to be a moron doesn't extend to compromising national security, not sorry.