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[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Let's ban TikTok while our kids are dying because of guns. It's like they're doing everything they can to lose an election.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit America is crazy. How do you get to the point where more kids are dying of guns than cars in a country with too many cars. And why has poisoning gone up so much?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's poisoning and drug overdose. I can only assume fentanyl is the reason for a huge spike in that area.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And Tide pods, of course 😛

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

No, it’s all the porn. Edging is poisoning our youth.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

When you actually do the calculations... Even just taking a rough "6 kids per 100,000" killed with firearms, doesn't sound too bad no?

That's about 20,000 KIDS killed per year

TWENTY FUCKIN THOUSAND

Christ on a bike

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And giant cats it seems.

Also wtf is going on with drugs since 2019. Is this all fentanyl?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Well, it ain’t the marijuana that still hasn’t been decriminalized.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

I dunno - don't underestimate just how jaw-dropping shockingly unintelligent many of them are.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The only way to stop a bad Tik Tok, is a good Tik Tok with a gun.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let’s ban TikTok while our kids are dying because of guns.

TBF... That spike in "poisoning" could easily be attributed to dumb shit like the "tide pod" challenge.

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lol. Without looking up anything I can tell you not more than 50 kids have died from laundry detergent digestion in the last 5 years. I'd love to be proven wrong about this. And even among those some will be actual accidents since children ate detergents long before TikTok. That spike in poisoning is probably due to fentanyl since this data includes people younger than 19. Drug use has increased a lot in teenagers in the last few years. So stop antagonizing a fucking app to support censorship and start seeing the real problems out there.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2790949

https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2023/12/reported-drug-use-among-adolescents-continued-to-hold-below-pre-pandemic-levels-in-2023

"New data show relatively low use of illicit substances, yet overdose death rates among teens have risen in recent years"

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -1 points 8 months ago

Without looking up anything I can tell you not more than 50 kids have died from laundry detergent digestion in the last 5 years.

"Dumb shit like"... Not that Tide pods are 100% of.

poisoning is probably due to fentanyl

Huh, wonder where that's coming from!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/world/asia/us-china-fentanyl.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-china-fentanyl-crisis-talks-rcna136345
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/chinas-role-in-the-fentanyl-crisis/
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/16/1213588974/the-us-and-china-agree-to-curb-fentanyl-will-it-work

Oops. But right! China Good!

So stop antagonizing a fucking app to support censorship and start seeing the real problems out there.

I don't need to antagonize anything. The USA (or ANY sovereign nation) has the right to limit another government's/country's holdings within it's own borders. That's it. Tiktok is operating here in the USA... The USA can kick them out if they will not divest their Chinese stakes. There's nothing to antagonize here. I don't actually care about the argument that this graph claims to make, just pointing out that Tiktok definitely has SOME percentage of a representation on the graph as well.

Considering that the Chinese Government only owns 1% stake in Bytedance, it's interesting that the Chinese government has a board seat on the company isn't it? https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/beijing-takes-stake-board-seat-in-bytedances-key-china-entity-the-information-2021-08-16

Usually you need to get voted in, and need to be a larger stakeholder than simply 1%... This alone is enough to claim there's foul play. Yet you all are screaming from the top of your lungs "My rights"... As if you couldn't post whatever the fuck you want literally ANYWHERE else.

and start seeing the real problems out there.

I see a common feature of BOTH problems. Do you? And it's not racism for me to call that out regardless of what bullshit you concoct in your head.